Well, it looks like my starter contacts have warn out... takes several turns to get it started. Dan has the starter in stock, so I think i am going to go pick it up, and get started today. I may be calling out for some help if I get stuck. Even if it takes all weekend, it'll save $500 in labor.
You turn the key, and nothing happens... you do this a few times.. then it will start. It's a common issue for the starter contacts to wear out, and this is the #1 symptom. This could also point to a battery, but all other electrical functions are fine in the "acc" mode.
I've never heard of a starter that requires removal of the intake manifold before. It seems that some engineer at Toyota may have dropped the ball on this one. No wonder the labor charge would be $500.
Is your solenoid clicking? I ask that because you said "nothing happens" and if it's your starter contacts I would think you could hear at least the solenoid...
I've never heard of a starter that requires removal of the intake manifold before. It seems that some engineer at Toyota may have dropped the ball on this one. No wonder the labor charge would be $500.
The newer V8 engines are using the space between the cylinders for things like the starter. The LS400 V8 has the starter in the same location and I have heard that other manufacturers are doing the same thing.
The starter on a 2F is a piece of cake. I did crawl under the truck but that was only because it was easier to reach the bolts from below rather than from above due to the distance of the starter from the top of the fender (where my armpits were). I had the same "turn the key but it won't start problem" I would get the click from the solenoid firing but the contacts were too worn to make contact with the contact ring and both contacts at the same time, thus preventing the juice from making it to the starter motor. Ron, like Steve asked, are you hearing a click when you turn the key? Can the contacts be replaced on a 100-series starter as easily as they are in a 60 or 80-series?
I'll be tearing into mine tomorrow afternoon. Our guests are leaving around 3 so I will have 2 or so hours of daylight to get it done. There are 3 bags of parts taunting me right now!
Thanks to you Dan for the parts
Daisy
The starter on a 2F is a piece of cake. I did crawl under the truck but that was only because it was easier to reach the bolts from below rather than from above due to the distance of the starter from the top of the fender (where my armpits were). I had the same "turn the key but it won't start problem" I would get the click from the solenoid firing but the contacts were too worn to make contact with the contact ring and both contacts at the same time, thus preventing the juice from making it to the starter motor. Ron, like Steve asked, are you hearing a click when you turn the key? Can the contacts be replaced on a 100-series starter as easily as they are in a 60 or 80-series?
Yes, 100 series starter, you can replace the contacts, and I believe the plunger is also occasionally replaced when rebuilding it. But because of the time it takes to get in there, I decided to get a new starter, and be done with it. I'm considering taking rebuilding the old as a spare. I haven't decided yet.
I'll be tearing into mine tomorrow afternoon. Our guests are leaving around 3 so I will have 2 or so hours of daylight to get it done. There are 3 bags of parts taunting me right now!
Thanks to you Dan for the parts
Daisy
It'll take you more than two hours or more for this project. The biggest thing is make sure to follow the FSM's procedure on applying pressure to the contacts with a wood block before tightening everything down. Otherwise, the contacts don't lay flat and you don't get the longevity out of them.
Got her done!!
Took me way too long to get those bolts out of the starter, but when I did get them out, it was very easy to fix. Took longer to clean the gunk off the starter than it did to replace the contacts.
Got her done!!
Took me way too long to get those bolts out of the starter, but when I did get them out, it was very easy to fix. Took longer to clean the gunk off the starter than it did to replace the contacts.
Got her done!!
Took me way too long to get those bolts out of the starter, but when I did get them out, it was very easy to fix. Took longer to clean the gunk off the starter than it did to replace the contacts.
