New rules/permits for motorhomes and towing vehicles in Baja Mexico 10/2017

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So what do they consider a motorhome? i.e. is a slide-in camper like I've talked to you about a 'motorhome?'

Good question, its Mexico so always carry cash and a friendly smile it does wonders:grinpimp:
 
Looks like that shoots the heck out of buying a trailer and parking it in Mexico. This seems to read that you must tow out the trailer you came in with.

So what happens if a person left their trailer in Mexico before the new rules? Can someone tow it back to the US?
 
Looks like that shoots the heck out of buying a trailer and parking it in Mexico. This seems to read that you must tow out the trailer you came in with.

So what happens if a person left their trailer in Mexico before the new rules? Can someone tow it back to the US?

I read it as

Permits are not need for trailer

Permits are needed for Motorhomes-
  • Valid for 10 years
  • Good for multiple entry
  • $52 USD

I see this part as the gray area. Typical for Mexican laws

-There are weight restrictions for vehicles that are NOT motorhomes getting vehicle TIPs for mainland. The GVWR cannot be more than 7,716 pounds (3.5 tons) if the vehicle is not a motorhome. Baja Sur will NOT issue TIPs for non-motorhome vehicles over that weight. There’s a possibility that they may issue the vehicle TIP along the California/Baja California border, but it depends on customs clearing the vehicle. Getting a TIP at the California/Baja California border does not guarantee that if you are exiting Mexico and entering again, they will reissue a TIP if your vehicle is overweight.
 
I read it as

Permits are not need for trailer

Permits are needed for Motorhomes-
  • Valid for 10 years
  • Good for multiple entry
  • $52 USD

I see this part as the gray area. Typical for Mexican laws

-There are weight restrictions for vehicles that are NOT motorhomes getting vehicle TIPs for mainland. The GVWR cannot be more than 7,716 pounds (3.5 tons) if the vehicle is not a motorhome. Baja Sur will NOT issue TIPs for non-motorhome vehicles over that weight. There’s a possibility that they may issue the vehicle TIP along the California/Baja California border, but it depends on customs clearing the vehicle. Getting a TIP at the California/Baja California border does not guarantee that if you are exiting Mexico and entering again, they will reissue a TIP if your vehicle is overweight.

A little more info/explanation here, but looks like some potential trouble for larger vehicles as you state.
Mexico RV Info
 
A little more info/explanation here, but looks like some potential trouble for larger vehicles as you state.
Mexico RV Info

The more they restrict motorhome and trailer travel the less traffic with less crowded RV parks. Today the limited amount of on the water RV parks are few and only getting less with the growth of hi-rise condos. Im OK with it as long as my park stay open as our trailer will never leave Mexico.
 
The more they restrict motorhome and trailer travel the less traffic with less crowded RV parks. Today the limited amount of on the water RV parks are few and only getting less with the growth of hi-rise condos. Im OK with it as long as my park stay open as our trailer will never leave Mexico.

Politically, you tax or regulate behaviors you want to discourage for some other perceived or preferred behavior, not sure what they want to accomplish with this. I just can't figure out the "why" they would want to restrict traffic. To increase investments into land, and home ownership, less wear on aging and poorly designed roads and bridges?
 
I was wondering how a motor home pulls a 5th wheel. If this is only motorhomes then @oilbrnr should have no problem.

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I was wondering how a motor home pulls a 5th wheel. If this is only motorhomes then @oilbrnr should have no problem.

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But the truth be told his LX450 is seeing new ground these days without him and wont be found behind a motorhome.
 
Yeah, and the MH will soon be up for sale... I think it is something that Phil needs.

Here is the strange part to me; The GVWR cannot be more than 7,716 pounds (3.5 tons) if the vehicle is not a motorhome

Well I'm at a GVWR of 8,510 lbs with the Wagon.
 
Yeah, and the MH will soon be up for sale... I think it is something that Phil needs.

Here is the strange part to me; The GVWR cannot be more than 7,716 pounds (3.5 tons) if the vehicle is not a motorhome

Well I'm at a GVWR of 8,510 lbs with the Wagon.

The weight thing had me also but again its Mexico and the rules and laws are interpreted by the one in authority.
 
Yeah, and the MH will soon be up for sale... I think it is something that Phil needs.

Here is the strange part to me; The GVWR cannot be more than 7,716 pounds (3.5 tons) if the vehicle is not a motorhome

Well I'm at a GVWR of 8,510 lbs with the Wagon.
We recently attempted to take three 3/4 ton four door pickup trucks from our smelter in Arizona to our smelter in Mexico (like we have been doing since 1999). We found out the rules had changed two weeks prior and we could not take them across the border due to their weight - even though they were company trucks and technically belong to one of the largest corporations in Mexico. We had to wait at the border for some vans to take us down south.

Some of our managers are now getting 1/2 ton two door pickups so they can cross the border.
 
+Step, is this mainland MX? If so, then we really need to push for altering NAFTA. Even Baja, I don't get what they are thinking. (though it is always $$$ based) But they will kill off a big chunk of tourism. Dumb. Just dumb.
 
I don't understand the logic. (I know, it is Mexico, throw logic out the window) It is really going to affect tourism. Not everyone goes down in a Prius. I re-read that link that Phil attached to this thread. Originally I thought it only pertained to Baja. Just stupid.
 
Appears to be just another Mexican law. Saw several people with toads in tow lined up to cross the border. I helped a lady disconnect her tow vehicle in the park and asked her about the law and she look at me and said where did you hear that. She crossed the border no different than she has done in the past with no one very saying a word. She did say in the past the Mexican border agents have asked for her registration for her toad but not even that this time crossing.

Note: Every since the election the Mexican border agents only open one lane when crossing. This has caused some wait time to cross into Mexico depending the day of the week and time of the day.
 
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