New HZJ70 hardtop - they still exist!

[tlcruiserman]

Well if you thought the 70 series hardtop with a diesel no longer existed, they do here is a picture of one in the Middle East. This one is a basic model so it has 1HZ with R151 5 speed, FF rear axle, split rims, A/C and of course is the newer design with front coils and rear leafs. The loaded model comes with power windows and locks, optional e-lockers, and e-winch.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[Radd Cruisers]

Well if you thought the 70 series hardtop with a diesel no longer existed, they do here is a picture of one in the Middle East. This one is a basic model so it has 1HZ with R151 5 speed, FF rear axle, split rims, A/C and of course is the newer design with front coils and rear leafs. The loaded model comes with power windows and locks, optional e-lockers, and e-winch.

Cheers,

Michael

Oooooh, lefty drive to.

Thanks for the pics.



Rob

 

[denis]

wouldn't a coiler 5-lug be an HZJ71 rather than 70 ?
that frontend is kinda not growing on me, oh well.

 

[tlcruiserman]

wouldn't a coiler 5-lug be an HZJ71 rather than 70 ?
that frontend is kinda not growing on me, oh well.

HZJ71 would be a RHD this is a LHD

Cheers,

Michael

 

[tlcruiserman]

The Front end is starting to grow on me. I look at it as, what do you get when to cross breed a 7x series with a 6x series, the new front end of the 7x series

Cheers,

Michael

 

[tlcruiserman]

One more tid bit of information on the new front end. I have heard it before for many that they just chaned the front clip from the firewall forward but I can tell you that is NOT the case in addition to new body panels from the firewall forward they also changed the frame and underpinings as well. You can not just bolt up the old front end to the new Cruisers. This I know the hard way

Cheers,

Michael

 

[denis]

HZJ71 would be a RHD this is a LHD

Mmh you got me thinking, I'm pretty sure the grey imports we had in europe were 71 LHD, at least the MWB were definately 74 and LWB 78/79.

 

[tlcruiserman]

Mmh you got me thinking, I'm pretty sure the grey imports we had in europe were 71 LHD, at least the MWB were definately 74 and LWB 78/79.

Well that could be the case, at one point if they ended in a 1 it was RHD verses 0 was LHD but they may be used differently with different models. like the 80 verses the 81 was Left and Right, and I have a 70 series body from oz an that is a 71 and my BJ70 ragtop from Japan is a 71 series model both of those are 1980's vintage.

So I will say that you may be correct and they are not always left and right but the 71 does not have to do with the coil front suspension (based on my 71 models that are front leaf).

I will look at the model on the vin of the 70 series hard top and see if it says 71 or 70, might be a while before I can check one out again.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[roscoFJ73]

Well that could be the case, at one point if they ended in a 1 it was RHD verses 0 was LHD but they may be used differently with different models. like the 80 verses the 81 was Left and Right, and I have a 70 series body from oz an that is a 71 and my BJ70 ragtop from Japan is a 71 series model both of those are 1980's vintage.

So I will say that you may be correct and they are not always left and right but the 71 does not have to do with the coil front suspension (based on my 71 models that are front leaf).

I will look at the model on the vin of the 70 series hard top and see if it says 71 or 70, might be a while before I can check one out again.

Cheers,

Michael

Is yours a turbo? On the 84-98 7* series,a one means turbo. On the post 1998 models ,a one meant coils and a turbo was designated by adding a D to the alpha part of the code.
The HZJ73 became a HZJ74 and so on.
They couldnt do this with the 75 series because there was already a 76/77 series so they went to 78 and 79.
The 80s are different as the 81 was a highly optioned JDM model
Left hand is usually shown by a L after the numerals.

 

[tlcruiserman]

Is yours a turbo? On the 84-98 7* series,a one means turbo. On the post 1998 models ,a one meant coils and a turbo was designated by adding a D to the alpha part of the code.
The HZJ73 became a HZJ74 and so on.
They couldnt do this with the 75 series because there was already a 76/77 series so they went to 78 and 79.
The 80s are different as the 81 was a highly optioned JDM model
Left hand is usually shown by a L after the numerals.

This one on the lot has a 1HZ in it (no turbos allowed in Middle East I am told). I guess we can't rely on the zero or one to mean the same thing from country to country even, oh well it is still a 7x series

Cheers,

Michael

 

[mrline]

Nice find dude...

 

[Clint79]

so theoreticly it would be a 70 being non turbo but because the little bugger is post 98/99 its 5 stud with coils front newer dash etc its a 71 yeah??

 

[tlcruiserman]

so theoreticly it would be a 70 being non turbo but because the little bugger is post 98/99 its 5 stud with coils front newer dash etc its a 71 yeah??

Maybe hard to say until I get get a shot of the vin but this is definetly a new 2009 model, well it might be a new 2008 model.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[lshobie]

The frame rails are wider to accept the V8 diesel engine, that's why they had to widen the engine compartment as well.

I like the front end because if you look in the engine compartment with a 1HZ in it you have tons of room for accessories, turbos, toys galore.

Louis

 

[JohnnyC]

nice pic...i dig the old school tyres

 

[JAC83]

70= leaf sprung front and rear

71=leafs in the rear, coils in front, the ones we got here in Venezuela are also 5 lug instead of 6 like the 70s.

 

[roscoFJ73]

The frame rails are wider to accept the V8 diesel engine, that's why they had to widen the engine compartment as well.

I like the front end because if you look in the engine compartment with a 1HZ in it you have tons of room for accessories, turbos, toys galore.

Louis

Someone locally has already fitted the 4.5 V8 diesel into a bobbed 80
I havent seen the engine bay pics yet.

 

[lshobie]

There would still be more room in the 80 engine compartment. I am also told that the 79 series axles are longer after 2007 - so the whole thing is wider.

 

[roscoFJ73]

. I am also told that the 79 series axles are longer after 2007 - so the whole thing is wider.

Yes,I read the same thing in the 4WDAction review when it was released. They also predicted it would fit into an 80/105

Rumours suggest upcoming models will have the rear end widened to suit That kind of suggests a whole new body
The troopy would look good with bulged out rear arches This is basicaly what Nissan did when they went to coils on the Patrol

At present the front track is wider than the rear by 100mm
There are some owners blaming this for poor handling on rutted tracks where the front is happy but the rear wants to twitch around.
Other owners are calling BS

 

[lshobie]

That would better, the skinny rear end drives me nuts. I put spacers on mine and it work better - was getting frame rub.

The skinny rear end does cause the problem in the ruts - the ruts cause the problem in the ruts I just think the rear is lighter than the front and the front falls in and the rear stays up and tracks differently.