New BFGoodrich Trail Terrain tires (1 Viewer)

[Madtiger]

My only issue with this tire is weight of tire. Yes, you get the nice look of KO2. Sure, it is probably more fuel efficient than KO2…but no way is it better than stock tires or Michelin Defender...just from the sheer weight of it (45 lbs vs. 39 lbs). I can’t imagine that it has better rolling resistance than Defender or stock tires. So, fuel economy is not gonna be great.

Besides the good looks, it does not have the trail puncture resistance that goes with the extra weight. Notice that BFG mentions “occasional” gravel road. Heck, Michelin is far more boasting of Defender’s capability in their documentation and presentation! Defender was made for heavy duty trucks and gravel roads. No mention of silica compound with this new BFG tire that is supposed to be road friendly.

So, why would anyone pick this tire over say a good set of Defender or Yokohama AT GO15? Good looks and snowflake symbol? Even then, the snowflake symbol has been very polarizing in what it means. (Personally, i like snowflake but KO2 is not exactly a snow tire! )

And i never want to be a guinea pig of any product that just came out….

 

[Itsky]

My only issue with this tire is weight of tire. Yes, you get the nice look of KO2. Sure, it is probably more fuel efficient than KO2…but no way is it better than stock tires or Michelin Defender...just from the sheer weight of it (45 lbs vs. 39 lbs). I can’t imagine that it has better rolling resistance than Defender or stock tires. So, fuel economy is not gonna be great.

Besides the good looks, it does not have the trail puncture resistance that goes with the extra weight. Notice that BFG mentions “occasional” gravel road. Heck, Michelin is far more boasting of Defender’s capability in their documentation and presentation! Defender was made for heavy duty trucks and gravel roads. No mention of silica compound with this new BFG tire that is supposed to be road friendly.

So, why would anyone pick this tire over say a good set of Defender or Yokohama AT GO15? Good looks and snowflake symbol? Even then, the snowflake symbol has been very polarizing in what it means. (Personally, i like snowflake but KO2 is not exactly a snow tire! )

And i never want to be a guinea pig of any product that just came out….

Gross speculation on the lack of mpg and trial puncture performance.

For me, the BFG AT KO2 is about the most agressive tire I would consider putting on my LC and the Michelin is about the least aggressive tire I would consider, good boundaries for my use case. I see the trail terrain as a mid point between the two. In my size, 285/70/17 (load c if possible), it’s a midpoint in tread block and weight.

 

[Sandroad]

Well, a little bad update today. After riding around on them over the weekend I've found to have a vibration in both the seat and the wheel around 65-70mph. Took it back to the shop and they turned one of the tires, road forced balanced all of them but the vibration still is present. The shop is sending them back to BFG as they feel there is a manufacturer defect and is putting on a set of Nitto G2's to replace them. They are P-Metric XL rated AT's, so will have to see how they do. Special kudos to Discount Tire for handling this so easily for me.

If anyone bites the bullet on these, keep special attention to the balance.

Thanks for the info. It’ll be Defenders for me!

 

[etherdawg]

Update - Did a lot of research and found almost no user feedback on the new BFG Trail-Terrain T/A - very frustrating. Based on my great experience with BFG All-Terrain A/Ts on my Model 80 LC, I went ahead and pulled the trigger today on set of 4 BGF Trail-Terrain T/A for the 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited (w 17 inch wheels option). After much self-debate. Kept with the OEM size of 265/65-17. Justification: handles/accelerates and brakes so well (almost as well as my Lexus LS430) as is, going up to a 265/70 would have increased the height by 1 inch with no compromise to suspension however would have changed the center of gravity, wind resistance, acceleration, braking and speedometer (slightly). Toyota engineers are brilliant. They built these machines to last way past the due date if properly maintained. Did not want to muck with greatness. I also did extensive research on tire chains (also, painful as there is not a lot of good information available - tons of options in function and quality). Goal was great snow/ice performance, comfortable/quiet ride, easy of use. Ultimately, decided on a set of Konig Standard Snow Tire Chains - Diamond Pattern - D Link - XB16 - Size 265 Item # TH01571265 from etrailer.com (price guarantee - super knowledgeable and nice folks). Have a near term overland trip planned with a mix of dry, wet, muddy, ice and snow over 11 eastern, northern Midwest and southern states. Will let you know how these new BFG Trail-Terrain work out.

How are you liking the trail terrain tires?

 

[08landcruiser]

any updates?

 

[thammer62]

Thread needs more real world feedback - or maybe very few have tried them yet.

Just looked back at that tire rack road test review in which it didn’t shine.

https://m.tirerack.com/videos/amp/player.jsp?autoPlay=true&title=Testing+On-%2FOff-Road+All-Terrain+Tires+2021%3A+BFGoodrich+Trail-Terrain+T%2FA&image=%2Fimages%2Fvideos%2Fvideo_images_758x426%2F2021%2FTest_16_ORAT_BFG_Trail-Terrain_TA.jpg&fragment=Test_16_ORAT_BFG_Trail-Terrain_TA

 

[Stgeo]

Thread needs more real world feedback - or maybe very few have tried them yet.

Just looked back at that tire rack road test review in which it didn’t shine.

https://m.tirerack.com/videos/amp/player.jsp?autoPlay=true&title=Testing+On-%2FOff-Road+All-Terrain+Tires+2021%3A+BFGoodrich+Trail-Terrain+T%2FA&image=%2Fimages%2Fvideos%2Fvideo_images_758x426%2F2021%2FTest_16_ORAT_BFG_Trail-Terrain_TA.jpg&fragment=Test_16_ORAT_BFG_Trail-Terrain_TA

I am in the process of changing my tires.
I have landed on the following: the BFG Trial Terrain, Cooper Defender AT3 4S, Yokohama G015. Or Michelin Defender LTX.
I live in Toronto Canada and want the Snowflake rating.
I am leaning to the Yoko or Coopers. Interested to hear reader's preferences.
Main use: daily city and highway driver with 5-10% offroad use consisting gravel, sand, snow i.e. off beaten path! Rig will be lightly loaded.
Am thinking moving down to 18" rims with Tundra rims 18x8 and 275/65/18. Or 17"s with 275/70/17 i believe. Interested also to hear reader preferences on 17 vs 18s.

 

[Sandroad]

I am in the process of changing my tires.
I have landed on the following: the BFG Trial Terrain, Cooper Defender AT3 4S, Yokohama G015. Or Michelin Defender LTX.
I live in Toronto Canada and want the Snowflake rating.
I am leaning to the Yoko or Coopers. Interested to hear reader's preferences.
Main use: daily city and highway driver with 5-10% offroad use consisting gravel, sand, snow i.e. off beaten path! Rig will be lightly loaded.
Am thinking moving down to 18" rims with Tundra rims 18x8 and 275/65/18. Or 17"s with 275/70/17 i believe. Interested also to hear reader preferences on 17 vs 18s.

The snowflake rating doesn’t mean much. It’s an extremely low bar. If you need winter tires, get winter tires. A highway or AT tire with the 3pmsf symbol might or might not be marginally better in winter. You can get some real world ratings (including winter) on those tires at the Tire Rack site. Also use a search on Mud with those names and you’ll get lots of hits. There’s an incredible amount of tire info already on Mud. I run the Defender all year in Michigan.

 

[Madtiger]

I am in the process of changing my tires.
I have landed on the following: the BFG Trial Terrain, Cooper Defender AT3 4S, Yokohama G015. Or Michelin Defender LTX.
I live in Toronto Canada and want the Snowflake rating.
I am leaning to the Yoko or Coopers. Interested to hear reader's preferences.
Main use: daily city and highway driver with 5-10% offroad use consisting gravel, sand, snow i.e. off beaten path! Rig will be lightly loaded.
Am thinking moving down to 18" rims with Tundra rims 18x8 and 275/65/18. Or 17"s with 275/70/17 i believe. Interested also to hear reader preferences on 17 vs 18s.

Not sure if it is up your alley, but i have been researching on Michelin LTX Trail: New Michelin AT tire? - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/new-michelin-at-tire.1281379/

It almost sounds too good to be true but it only comes in ONE size in USA: P265/70/18.

For me, it is quite intriguing. Michelin. AT tire. 37 lbs!!! Sidewall strength seems decent (at least per advertisement).

But, for your case, no snowflake symbol.

 

[Couvi]

Any updates on anyone running the BFG trail terrains? I’m getting close to needing to replace on my 04LC. Thx

 

[spazzyfry123]

Tossed OEM sized on to replace worn Michelins. 200 is a road warrior for the wife and kids. Admittedly did it predominantly for the looks. Truck will see a dirt/gravel road and driveway every day that a Prius can do with zero effort. At worst will be an easy forest service road when the family wants to head into the woods (will test that tomorrow). The 80 is the off road work horse.

With minimal experience, I’ll give initial impressions compared to nearly 60k miles of Michelin.

They ride a little rougher, but I’m sure that’s to be expected. It feels like they are slightly out of balance. I’ll let the wife ride for a while and then check back in. Compared to the 315 KM3s on the 80, they are incredible on the road.

Road noise is present, but you really need to be listening for it. No roaring down the road and I only notice it at like 65+. And I only mention it because it is slightly more than the Michelins. This really isn’t a thing to note.

They absorb imperfections in the road significantly better than the Michelins.

I haven’t looked up weights again, so this may just be in my head, but it feels like I need to give more throttle input to keep speed. Something feels heavier, but I thought when I compared it was just mere pounds when looking on the web. Doesn’t feel as nimble if there’s such a thing for such a large vehicle.

They look more aggressive in person than pictures and online shows. Great presence without being over the top for an otherwise stock vehicle. Landed right where I wanted the aesthetic.

I’m curious if true size is a lesser diameter than the same-sized Michelins. Speedo vs GPS is higher. 77 vs 73 as an example. I feel like that’s always been the case; just more exaggerated now.

Overall, I’ll say that for our use, this looks to be a way better option than the KO2s or similar. It sees 99% road and I just wanted to look cool. Significantly cheaper, too. Out the door was about $500 less for four. Also happy I stuck with OEM sizing. Keeps at a more compliant tire than say an E-rated 285/65 - also didn’t have to worry about buying a fifth tire to get a similar size spare.

I’m itching to toss on the OEM front spacer and maybe some wheel spacers while I’m at it.

 

[TimTX]

Considering these to replace my Terra Grappler G2's...looking for a quieter tire, but with some A/T look. Michelin's probably make logical sense...but not all 100 owners are logical and we like the "off road" look of these vs. Defenders. BTW 285/60R18's for mine...lol

How noisy are they? Anyone run G2's previously? TIA