My LPG conversion pics ...

[dominic]

Yes, you pull the carrier away and the doors just open normally. Two halves, just like the UK model. Notice, the tail lights are different. No lights on the bottom half of the door.
The LPG conversion seems to be really something! Those small bills must be lovely. I filled my tank yesterday. It took £73.00 and it wasn't even empty before I filled it!
Thanks guys.
Oh, by the way..... Very quick Sword! Very quick!
I am going to have to be more careful about my essays. The teacher would have had a field day with that!

 

[Sword]

Echo Imprator's comments re installers - one of my criteria was get a recommended and reliable mechanic who had done an Amazon <---- that's arguably more important than which system you choose these days.

As it turns out, the importers of Romano and guys who train the fitters are just up the road from me and their technical director runs an Amazon on LPG. My fitter worked for them for ages and they recommended him so that settled it for me.

Sword

 

[Previa Diesel]

With all those tandooris and chips shops about I can't understand why you chaps don't run diesels on WVO? But then I remember something about having to pay taxes on it, am I right?

 

[dominic]

THAT'S where we got it wrong, guys!
And we thought our LCs ran on PETROL!

 

[imprator]

With all those tandooris and chips shops about I can't understand why you chaps don't run diesels on WVO? But then I remember something about having to pay taxes on it, am I right?

You're right - taxes, taxes everywhere.

Of course, you could just not tell anyone. Then again, if you are prepared to do that you can run an LPG vehicle from your own LPG tank which you have filled (nominally) with gas for domestic heating. It's still taxed, but at a MUCH lower rate than LPG which is sold to power vehicles.

The problem comes if you are found out. The government apparatus gets really vicious if taxes are avoided. After all, if everyone did it where would the money come from to pay all those politicians? They might actually have to get real jobs - and that would never do!

 

[Previa Diesel]

Presumably there is no such thing as 'marked LPG' however?

I'd say the problem comes when you get rear-ended at 40mph and that tank goes up. Strengthened rear bumper anyone?

 

[imprator]

Presumably there is no such thing as 'marked LPG' however?

True. However, fuel suppliers are required by law to inform the relevant authorities if they suspect anything untoward. Failure to do so can result in the loss of their licence to sell fuel and criminal prosecution of responsible individuals. The companies are even required to review the fuel orders of their customers and report any unexplainable increases in orders placed for gas or low-duty diesel. Of course, I don't know how assiduous supply companies are in such matters. I haven't heard of any of them losing their licence or being prosecuted, so perhaps they are either extremely diligent or this is one of those increasing number of laws that are widely and quietly disregarded.

There is also the possibility of jealous or civic minded (self-righteous?) neighbours etc. informing the authorities.

An investigation wouldn't be pleasant. The inspectors will presume your guilt until proved innocent and the penalties are harsh. Innocence could be a little difficult to prove if your gas tank has a filler pump with a car-type fitting (they differ from commercial type fittings, in part to prevent this activity) when the inspectors arrive unannounced.

Now if your gas tank was on premises which you owned where you operate a gas-powered off-road vehicle such as a fork lift, the pump had a commercial fitting on which you used a converter for your car (widely available as they are necessary for UK vehicles which are used in Europe) and the tank wasn't visible to other people, that might make things a little difficult to prove.

Or you could just take a chance. I know that people do with low-duty (red tinted) diesel. I live in a rural area and the mechanics at my local workshop tell me that they have never worked on a farmer's car, van or truck that didn't have red diesel in the tank. Red diesel also finds its way into a large number of private vehicles; about 25% of all diesel-powered cars have red diesel in the tank when they go to the scrap yard...

 

[uHu]

With all those tandooris and chips shops about I can't understand why you chaps don't run diesels on WVO? But then I remember something about having to pay taxes on it, am I right?

You can run wvo on your 1HZ. I believe the 1HD is not that good on such fuel. And with such a long, cold winter, it's not that attractive. Bio-diesel is a better option, but still requires heating for more than half of the year...

Are you running wvo?

 

[Previa Diesel]

You can run wvo on your 1HZ. I believe the 1HD is not that good on such fuel. And with such a long, cold winter, it's not that attractive. Bio-diesel is a better option, but still requires heating for more than half of the year...

Are you running wvo?

I've looked into dual tank WVO setups vs. doing the conversion into BioD. After a lot of pondering have decided to put the WVO dual tank etc. on my old pickup and run bioD in the 1HZ. (Assuming it doesn't sell first!)

The 1HDT should love BioD as it has better lubricity and cetane numbers than petro diesel.

I'm not running either yet, but am gathering the hardware and with $75. a fill up it won't be long now.

My understanding is that the viscosity of BioD is very close to petro diesel so I don't believe pre-heating should be necc. Not around these parts anyway. WVO is a very different matter.

 

[Previa Diesel]

Very interesting. Fortunately, out here they haven't tried to tax WVO yet, so no need to do anything to upset Big Brother.

True. However, fuel suppliers are required by law to inform the relevant authorities if they suspect anything untoward. Failure to do so can result in the loss of their licence to sell fuel and criminal prosecution of responsible individuals. The companies are even required to review the fuel orders of their customers and report any unexplainable increases in orders placed for gas or low-duty diesel. Of course, I don't know how assiduous supply companies are in such matters. I haven't heard of any of them losing their licence or being prosecuted, so perhaps they are either extremely diligent or this is one of those increasing number of laws that are widely and quietly disregarded.

There is also the possibility of jealous or civic minded (self-righteous?) neighbours etc. informing the authorities.

An investigation wouldn't be pleasant. The inspectors will presume your guilt until proved innocent and the penalties are harsh. Innocence could be a little difficult to prove if your gas tank has a filler pump with a car-type fitting (they differ from commercial type fittings, in part to prevent this activity) when the inspectors arrive unannounced.

Now if your gas tank was on premises which you owned where you operate a gas-powered off-road vehicle such as a fork lift, the pump had a commercial fitting on which you used a converter for your car (widely available as they are necessary for UK vehicles which are used in Europe) and the tank wasn't visible to other people, that might make things a little difficult to prove.

Or you could just take a chance. I know that people do with low-duty (red tinted) diesel. I live in a rural area and the mechanics at my local workshop tell me that they have never worked on a farmer's car, van or truck that didn't have red diesel in the tank. Red diesel also finds its way into a large number of private vehicles; about 25% of all diesel-powered cars have red diesel in the tank when they go to the scrap yard...