MY 80-series Health Report

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Guys, I haven't posted much, I don't have any useful answers to contribute to anyone, just a bunch of questions!

Earlier this summer I fulfilled a long-held desire and finally got myself an 80-series. It's a '97 that is in terrific shape, engine starts and runs smoothly and with good power, does not leak anything anywhere, body and paint excellent, interior beautiful. It drives like a dream on the streets and highway, I have not been off-road with it yet. It has 149,000 miles on the clock. It had a fair amount of work done under the hood in the past year or so by the seller: timing chain assembly, water pump, starter, PHH, valve adjustment.

Since I got the thing, I have been itching to order the usual lift, bumpers, roof rack, fridge, etc, etc. But I felt it would be prudent first to just get familiar with the thing and drive it around a while and learn its habits. I have been very pleased with it. It's a ton of fun to drive and gets a lot of nice looks and comments.

The one thing about it is that it uses more oil than I would have thought, in a shade under 2000 miles that I have put on it I have had to add a quart and a half to keep it topped off. As I mentioned it does not leak, garage floor and undercarriage are bone dry. There is a quick puff of white smoke from the tailpipe on first start-up in the morning but that's all I have seen. As a final check before my mods ordering frenzy I decided to do some testing to see where things stand with the engine.

I scheduled a compression test with a well-regarded local foreign independent shop, whose most experienced mechanic has taken good care of my wife's R-class for the past 4 or 5 years, I have come to trust his opinions and recommendations. They are not Land Cruiser specialists but I am told they used to care for most of the 80s in this area, although there are only a few left around here now. They're the closest thing we have to a specialist around here. Here is the result of his compression test:
"Engine has 185 on cylinders 1 and 2, 190 on 3, 4, and 5, and 185 on cylinder 6. Given margin of error on compression gauge vehicle is well within acceptable range of a healthy engine. Very good compression considering mileage of vehicle." Because of the excellent compression numbers he did not do a leak-down test.

BUT he did raise a concern about the engine sound. I thought some tapping with these things is normal but he feels that the engine noise is excessive. I know the valves were adjusted before I bought it. The mechanic is concerned that the cam lobes may be worn and making noise and even the head may be worn. I have attached a short video of the engine running. I took it with my iPhone so I don't know how much you can tell from it but give it a look and see what you think.

Then, my results from Blackstone arrived. I have attached the file. It looks like I am in for a new head gasket at some point. Fair enough, I did enough reading prior to purchase to know that it's not IF, it's WHEN. The vehicle is in good enough shape that I am willing to lay out for it.

Anyway, thanks for reading, that's my story, now we get to the audience participation.Answer if you would, these questions:

1. What's the best next step? Act now or wait? At what point do I act? What to look for?

2. Where's the oil going?

3. What would you do?

The mechanic here did not seem to be too impressed with the Blackstone report when I told him about it. He seems to be more concerned about the cam. I mean, he's talking about the head may need replacing when it comes down to it. By the way, he knows that I may or may not use him for any work done. If I need anything major done I'm thinking about shipping it to ACC in Atlanta. He says that I may have trouble next week, or it may go a good long while just like it is, so go ahead and get what ever mods I want and put them on.

What do you think? Suggestions appreciated. Thanks, namsag.

Addendum: sorry guys I suck at posting stuff. Having trouble with YouTube. Video is here:


Sorry. Thanks.

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I have to agree with your mechanic about the excessive engine noise. Sounds like a knocking noise but not overly loud. White smoke at start up would indicate water and oil is very light blue. Is the coolant level in your recovery tank dropping? This can happen very slowly and will require attention to detail. It is possible for a HG to leak only oil or only water into the combustin chamber. It is also possible to a HG to give up between two cylinders and leak no fluids at least for a while.
With that engine noise and BlackStone's report, I would also be interested in actual oil pressure numbers. Have you inspected the spark plugs to see if any appear to be contaminated with oil even slightly?
This is a tough call because the engine runs well and you are anxious to spend money on mods. I have a tendency towards practicality so squaring the engine away would be my first order of business. I would always be concerned whether or not it would blow on me out in the middle of nowhere because my HG let loose instantly just 16k miles after the PO had the engine rebuilt using FelPro gaskets. A mechanics stethascope can be used to try and pin point where the noise is coming from and the oil pan could be dropped and the all the crank bearings could be plasti-guaged for clearance. But first, I would get an oil pressure test guage to screw into the engine oil pressure sending unit port and see what you have for oil pressure. If oil pressure and crank bearing are good, the cam bearings can be checked easily. With puff of smoke at start up, the BS report showing coolant and high wear metals, the oil consumption and the niose all added up, I have a feeling you should hold off on mods for now because a nicely appointed 80 is nothing without a prime mover.
 
Thanks guys, I do intend to get the engine squared away before putting any money into any toys, makes the best sense to me. I am glad I waited. Is this enough to go ahead and get the work done now? Or what indications do I wait for?
 

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