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Brisket.

Can anyone teach me to make an old fashion?

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sugar, bitters, fruit(cherries, lime) in the glass - smash it up and add whiskey. you have to have the little mini baseball bat bar smasher thingy that every bar has to make them even though no one ever does.

why? - as a bartender for 2+ years I think I made a grand total of one, but it is one of those things that everyone learns.
 
sugar, bitters, fruit(cherries, lime) in the glass - smash it up and add whiskey. you have to have the little mini baseball bat bar smasher thingy that every bar has to make them even though no one ever does.

why? - as a bartender for 2+ years I think I made a grand total of one, but it is one of those things that everyone learns.

I know the ingredients, and I have watched the videos, but mine never turn out as well as what I get from this place down town. I have had them at a few different places, and I was going to stop ordering them because I never really enjoyed it, but once I had a good one, I was hooked.
 
bhmmapping said:
sugar, bitters, fruit(cherries, lime) in the glass - smash it up and add whiskey. you have to have the little mini baseball bat bar smasher thingy that every bar has to make them even though no one ever does.

why? - as a bartender for 2+ years I think I made a grand total of one, but it is one of those things that everyone learns.

Haha...bartender for the same amount of time...don't think I ever made one...muddlers are for mojitos anyway, not "old fashion"

1800 silver and ginger-ale is my choice drink if I'm not downing sapphire tonics or sapphire and OJ like a G

Try knob creek or another mid level whiskey and see how it goes. What whiskey are they using at the bar?

I have to be at this next meet...
 
Haha...bartender for the same amount of time...don't think I ever made one...muddlers are for mojitos anyway, not "old fashion"

1800 silver and ginger-ale is my choice drink if I'm not downing sapphire tonics or sapphire and OJ like a G

Try knob creek or another mid level whiskey and see how it goes. What whiskey are they using at the bar?

I have to be at this next meet...
I was trying with virgin, and I am pretty certain thats 90% of my problem. The lady at the state store recommended old grandady or something like that, I drank it straight last night because I didnt have any fruit. Its only 40% not 55% like virgin so it has a lot less of a bite.

I believe they used Makers at the bar... but I had 4 of those $9 beast followed by the cheaper white russian... so things got how do you say.. fuzzy. I didnt buy makers because I wasnt ready to drop 4x what I usually spend on whiskey.

Ill look at knob next time I am in the store.
 
Knob is going to be in the same price point as Maker's possibly a little more expensive. Bulleit is a good on to try also if you're just looking for something new. I will say personally I usually do Evan green or black. It's what I cook with so I almost always have it on hand and really I can't beat it for the price.
 
matt32 said:
Knob is going to be in the same price point as Maker's possibly a little more expensive. Bulleit is a good on to try also if you're just looking for something new. I will say personally I usually do Evan green or black. It's what I cook with so I almost always have it on hand and really I can't beat it for the price.

Knob may be a bit more expensive...it was JIM beams push into a shelf whiskey almost 10 years ago if I remember correctly, single
Barrel and aged. Evan isn't bad for the buck at all and has a good flavor compared to less expensive whiskey/bourbon.

I don't drink caramel colored alcohol though unless I'm
Making milk shakes, apple pie, or cobblers...yeah I make cobblers...haha
 
Mmmmmmmmmbourbon.

I'd venture a guess that using Makers will have an effect on the end result.

Makers is a "wheated" bourbon, meaning that they use wheat in the mash bill, rather than just rye and corn. This results in a sweeter bourbon requiring less time in the barrel. Many bourbons are just corn and rye, and pull the majority of their sugars from the charred and caramelized wood sugars in the interior of the barrel, which takes time.

A similarly smooth and sweet rye heavy bourbon is going to have a lot more time in the barrel than something like Maker's Mark. This is generally a financial decision for the distillery, as less barrel aging means less angel's share, and more profit per batch at a lower price point to the consumer. Win, win, and win.

In general, I prefer younger rye heavy bourbons in a sweet beverage, like a bourbon smash, old fashioned, or a mint julep. The rye adds a sort of spicy note that the sweetness of the other ingredients balances well, IMO. I do like the sweeter wheaters straight, or in something like a manhattan where there's not as much sweetness from the other ingredients.

My name is Keith, and I've got a bit of a bourbon... issue... (I'm not going to call it a problem, because I enjoy it too much.)

Bulleit, Buffalo Trace (I think), and Woodford Reserve are good middle of the road rye bourbons. Maker's, Knob Creek, basil hayden's are good middle of the road wheaters. From there you can get into stuff like Elmer T Lee, Eagle Rare, William Larue Weller, or the ever coveted Pappy Van Winkle.
 
I just made one with old grandad whiskey. It's better than with virgin 101. I think I need to get a sweeter bourbon to really hit the spot....

Next week...

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Yes I am and my personal holy grail of bourbon's is Booker's. It'll light you up but the payoff is so sweet. Now to the Maker's have you had the 46? I am not a fan of Maker's but 46 is good in my opinion.
 
I used to mist behave
 
I just made one with old grandad whiskey. It's better than with virgin 101. I think I need to get a sweeter bourbon to really hit the spot....

Next week...

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you're going to get a stomach ulcer if you keep making non-mixed drinks with higher than 80 proof liquor. save the high alcohol stuff for the hand grenades. old fashioned is going to be better with higher quality ingredients because there is really no mixer, but you should probably just put more sugar and more fruit in it if you think it should be sweeter. Although, if you think you are going to make a better drink than someone who makes thousands a night you are probably kidding yourself. Plus, you probably dont have one of these:

http://www.beveragefactory.com/barware/bartools/wood_muddler_8192.shtml?bstr=1

I can't make a decent mixed drink to save my life at home.
 
you're going to get a stomach ulcer if you keep making non-mixed drinks with higher than 80 proof liquor. save the high alcohol stuff for the hand grenades. old fashioned is going to be better with higher quality ingredients because there is really no mixer, but you should probably just put more sugar and more fruit in it if you think it should be sweeter. Although, if you think you are going to make a better drink than someone who makes thousands a night you are probably kidding yourself. Plus, you probably dont have one of these:

http://www.beveragefactory.com/barware/bartools/wood_muddler_8192.shtml?bstr=1

I can't make a decent mixed drink to save my life at home.

Grandad is 86 proof. I'll look for something 60ish proof and buy the mini ball bat and see how things go.

I ran out of cheries tonight. My last one was whiskey sugar lime cherrie juice and soda water. Not very good.

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80 proof is what you want. Do you have angostura bitters? smallish glass, lots of sugar, mash the crap out of the stuff, like you are in a hurry, pour the whiskey in and don't stir it. let it sit for a minute.

Pretend you are working in a bar and have to make a hundred other drinks in the next five minutes and you will get it close. I was kidding about the muddler, but if you do go get one get some pourers too - they make the biggest difference to me. It's all about the flow control.
 
Much agreed on pourers...but whiskey drinker I am not. Vodka, gin, silver tequila is about all I touch.
 
I havnt been using much sugar. I'll change that and see how it turns out.

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Why is that?
 
You're doing it all wrong. It tastes so good at the bar, because of the cheap napkins and cheap girls.
 

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