LRA 12.5 gal vs. Long Ranger AU 18.5 gal aux tanks

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Hello Everyone,

Thinking about the various aux tanks options for my 2021 LC200 Heritage.

I was planning on getting a LRA 12.5 tank but I came across the Long Ranger Tank which holds more fuel and still keeps the spare. I don't see many posts on the Long Ranger tank so I thought I would ask the community for feedback. Here are the two tanks. I am assuming the 18.5Gallon tank will sit a little lower due to its size.

LRA: TLC200SA-12.5G - Long Range America - https://longrangeamerica.com/prod/tlc200sa-12-5g/
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The Long Ranger: 70L Auxiliary Fuel Tank – Retains The Spare Tyre | The Long Ranger - http://thelongranger.com.au/toyota/landcruiser/200-series/ta65sp
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You would need to carry some kind of skinny spare or else it will drop the spare down low. If you are not going off road it would be fine.

I am not sure who brings in the Long Ranger tanks?
I looked at them before as they have one that carried a split tank, fuel and water. It's a large tank though, similar to the 40 gallon LRA tank.
 
Hello Everyone,

Thinking about the various aux tanks options for my 2021 LC200 Heritage.

I was planning on getting a LRA 12.5 tank but I came across the Long Ranger Tank which holds more fuel and still keeps the spare. I don't see many posts on the Long Ranger tank so I thought I would ask the community for feedback. Here are the two tanks. I am assuming the 18.5Gallon tank will sit a little lower due to its size.

LRA: TLC200SA-12.5G - Long Range America - https://longrangeamerica.com/prod/tlc200sa-12-5g/
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The Long Ranger: 70L Auxiliary Fuel Tank – Retains The Spare Tyre | The Long Ranger - http://thelongranger.com.au/toyota/landcruiser/200-series/ta65sp
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I was under the impression that the Long Ranger tank was not adapted to the US setup, i.e. retaining emissions canister and other tank venting requirements.
 
Negative.

The LRA aux tank is modified and adapted to the USDM 200-series as it has a relief cut in it for the charcoal canister. This does reduce capacity from the original ~15.5 gallon tank. The charcoal canister does not exist in Australian market 200-series.

This is the upper side of the aux tank. Notice the cut-out where the hose and box are sitting.

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Negative.

The LRA aux tank is modified and adapted to the USDM 200-series as it has a relief cut in it for the charcoal canister. This does reduce capacity from the original ~15.5 gallon tank. The charcoal canister does not exist in Australian market 200-series.

This is the upper side of the aux tank. Notice the cut-out where the hose and box are sitting.

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Good info. Do all of the LRA tanks have this notch? I thought I saw where people had to move their charcoal canisters under the wheel well on some installations.
 
Yes. There's a few custom jobs that relocated the charcoal canister before wide availability of the LRA tanks from Cruiser Brothers. And @grinchy that installed a factory aux tank.

Relocating the charcoal canister is not trivial and involves a degree of complexity. Actually the whole fuel system can be sensitive with potential for evap and emission codes. So unless you really know what you're doing, I wouldn't recommend going the custom route.

12.5 gallons is more than it sounds, as there's no need to keep reserves like in the main tank. I find it game changing opening up range to about 500 miles.
 
Yes. There's a few custom jobs that relocated the charcoal canister before wide availability of the LRA tanks from Cruiser Brothers. And @grinchy that installed a factory aux tank.

Relocating the charcoal canister is not trivial and involves a degree of complexity. Actually the whole fuel system can be sensitive with potential for evap and emission codes. So unless you really know what you're doing, I wouldn't recommend going the custom route.

12.5 gallons is more than it sounds, as there's no need to keep reserves like in the main tank. I find it game changing opening up range to about 500 miles.
Great. So the LRA 40 Gallon also has this notch? or does that one sit lower naturally so that it doesn't need one?
 
Yup, they all have notches.
 
I have the mid-size 22 (?) gallon LRA tank and it’s the best high dollar money I spent on the LC. Extending the range from 250-ish miles to something significant is meaningful.

While at LCDC, I was talking to someone and we both joked about the best investments for our LCs: cup holders, cool box storage container and LRA fuel tanks.
 
Factory aux tank still working a ok. It hasn’t ever thrown a dtc for evap or any other reason. My resistor network sender gauge combiner solution needs a revision though.
 
@clearmysix are you looking for ultimate range? I realize there are different options because of different tastes and use cases, but the 40 in my opinion is the way to go. The LRA tanks are all effectively the same price. The only draw back to the 40 is what to do with the spare tire and there are only four options - none of them ideal. 1 -You can put it on the roof (as I have); 2 - invest in a rear bumper and swing out (not for me as the rear tailgate ease of use and unique access is one of the main reasons I love the LC. I don't like the idea of adding the release and swing out of the spare to the back access equation. I have dogs that go in and out that way. Plus, you know, you're wading in at $4-6k to relocate your tire); 3 - clean it up and throw it in the back (which eats more storage space than it would initially look like); or 4 - put it in the garage next to your dusty rollerblades (probably not a bad option as I think a quick poll on here would return that very few have ever experienced a flat in their LC - and certainly not multiple ones. It comes down to how far afield you regularly find yourself. Then again, if you just installed 40 extra gallons of fuel maybe that's pretty far ;) ). The "under the car" solution is not ideal either. It's more of an out of site out of mind location, but I think many would say that when they've needed to access the spare under the car after many years of being out of site and mind, it's been fraught with rusty, stuck chains, sticky braces and let's face it, you're crawling under there. Everyone seems bound and determined to go with the 12 gallon tank to retain their under the car location of their spare and sacrifice range which to me is a little odd since range was the reason you were getting the aux tank in the first place.

Agree with @fos373 as I consider the LRA the top mod I have done. Extra range is extra range, so whatever you go with you will see the value in it.
 
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Howdy -
Thanks for the OP question and for the supportive posts. As the co-founder/co-manager of this tank-based business, a few (somewhat) biased comments. First, some clickbait to get your attention at the top of a long post :)

Our new "show truck" - 1991 LJ 77 from Spain, getting some love at North West Toys in Monmouth, OR (near Salem). Yes, that's a 39.5 gallon LRA tank and a KAYMAR bar/carrier system:

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OK, so are all Australian tanks created equally?

Before we entered this line of business we took a look at the basic WHAT, WHO, WHERE, WHY, HOW of replacement and add-in tanks with a whole bunch of questions related to vehicle fitment/compatibility, regulatory compliance, design/fabrication, suppliers, business issues, logistics, risks and the like.

Back in 2015-2017 we considered the issues above, along with North American demand and what it would take to build a safe, reliable product to support a profitable and service-focused business. My partner at the time, Georg Esterer (as Cruiser Brothers) had plenty of experience with Aussie fuel tanks having installed "classic" tank models in 40s, 60s and 80s. We had friends and customers like Mudrack, Slee, Mike Frisbee and others who shared their experiences with all of the Australian manufacturers. There are basically four such players and we looked at business and product issues related to each.

From our research, the ONLY Australian tank manufacturer with significant US experience was/is Long Range Automotive of Lilydale, Victoria State. Based upon guidance from our dealers, partners and friends, we approached Long Range Automotive and I first met co-owner Roger Beimers at the Melbourne Outdoor 4x4 Show in 2917. Our vision, objectives and commitments were well aligned and we became partners in common cause.

The other three AU suppliers have dabbled in US sales - shipping direct and via "group buys" but their products have never been specifically adapted to US standards and systems. Not a knock, but just an observation. LRA, on the other hand, has invested in differentiated kits to suit North American models, standards and emission systems. For a time, LRA supplied a dedicated US-based distributor/dealer, Outback Proven, which was co-owned by the principals of KAYMAR and Max Trax, managed by Benjamin Meddows. That firm did not prosper for reasons unrelated to product design or quality and Ben did a great job with heroic effort. Unfortunately, the business closed several years before we came on the scene.

With our first shipment in 2017, the tank offering from Long Range Automotive quickly took off. Georg led our development efforts in concert with the folks in Lilydale. He/we developed the 200 Series tanks (three sizes) to suit US emission systems, including the "notch" to clear the charcoal canister. This was followed by new and improved kits for Lexus GX/4 Runners, LC 100s and others. We also invested in detailed instruction documents to expand upon the Australian versions to suit North American needs/preferences.

Several years ago, Georg decided to focus on mechanical parts sales (WAT transmission components, SUMO Gear repair kits, etc.) while I wanted to focus on LRA tanks and KAYMAR rear bar/carrier systems. As a result, we had a friendly separation of interests, with Georg taking on sole ownership of Cruiser Brothers, while I launched Long Range America as the tank/bar business. I was soon joined by Khris Korell after moving my home and the business from Washington to Idaho.

Fast forward to 2021 and we have 8,500 of office/warehouse in Boise, monthly container arrivals and stock on the shelf, plus an old fart (me) answering service calls/product support questions, a warehouse/shipping manager (Michael) getting things moved and a sales/marketing guy (Khris) making sure the right gear gets ordered and sold properly.

We have invested the last four years in making and supporting products that work for our North American customers - in spite of COVID, screwed up logistics schedules and increased costs, etc. We are not perfect but we keep trying.

Roger and Anthony Beimers (owners of Long Range Automotive) continue to support us and our customers in spite of insane conditions due to COVID, shipping challenges, supply challenges and HUGE demand for their products. We could not ask for better partners and THEY are the reason we represent LRA tanks, not the other guys.

Georg and I are still close friends and his firm is our largest dealer. He is on retainer as a technical advisor and "gear guru" to our firm.

So if you need or want a tank for your Toyota, Lexus or Jeep - or a KAYMAR bar/carrier system, give us a call.

Or, if you have legacy products from "the old days" before we took on the lines, and need a part or accessory, give us a call. We are here to help.

On that note - There are lots of comments, issues, threads, posts about our products - installation, functional issues, maintenance, etc. I/we try to keep current and respond, but the last 12 months have made that hard. We are not always aware of what's going on at MUD Central, but we do care. If you have a question, comment or complaint, I/we want to know.

The best way to get to me is by email to ward@longrangeamerica.com or a message to my direct line 209-636-0831. I am often on the phone or way from the desk, but emails always go to my iPhone and that is the most certain and immediate way to get a response. MUD PM works too, but it is not covered as diligently as I would like.
 

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