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jrhaze said:
makes sense, thanks.

Why would the dominant be desireable for some people then? There must be an upside to make the training difficulty worth the extra effort?

Maybe they make better watchdogs? Just a guess.:cheers:
 
and this should stop someone from being passionate about a completely misunderstood breed?



wob said:
Don't you get sick of anti pitbull folks preaching to you about your breed? You are doing the same to everyone who doesn't want a rescue dog, for whatever reason.


Sheez, you don't even see it, do you?
 
erics_bruisers said:
How was I doing it by referring hi to breed-rescues on petfinder? I never said get a mutt, I just said go through a breed-specific rescue --

eric


Not everyone wants a rescue dog. Just don't get all preachy about it.
 
hooptie said:
and this should stop someone from being passionate about a completely misunderstood breed?


Not my point at all. I am referring to the "preachiness" of Eric's tone here.
 
erics_bruisers said:
...the days of izod shirts and labels are over -- ...
eric


miele?


stickley?












:rolleyes:
 
jrhaze said:
makes sense, thanks.

Why would the dominant be desireable for some people then? There must be an upside to make the training difficulty worth the extra effort?


People who train dogs for schutzhund, police dogs, and other working dogs would want a dog that would not be easily dissuaded from it's job.
 
hooptie said:
and this should stop someone from being passionate about a completely misunderstood breed?



y'know...there's something trolly about you...I just can't put my finger on it quite yet...
 
NorCalDoug said:
miele?


stickley?












:rolleyes:

um, stickley is the only arts and crafts manufacturer around in the US -- and i buy it at scratch and dent sales --

-- and the miele was cheaper for me than the s*** sold at home depot -- because i also bought that at scratch and dent --

-- NEXT -- !!

:D

i drive a fawking '91 civic as my DD
 
erics_bruisers said:
um, stickley is the only arts and crafts manufacturer around in the US -- and i buy it at scratch and dent sales --

-- and the miele was cheaper for me than the s*** sold at home depot -- because i also bought that at scratch and dent --

-- NEXT -- !!

:D

i drive a fawking '91 civic as my DD


-- I know what the fawk stickley is...and I know what the fawk miele is...mister the-days-of-izod-shirts-and-labels-are-over...

-- your point had nothing to do with cost -- it had to do with labels.



-- it's just that some people feel the same way about specific pure breed dogs.

-- you should be able to appreciate that, yes?
 
make sure u are buying a house bred dog....a dog whose mother lives in the home of the breeder. VISIT the breeder to see the mom. i looked into the peigree of a purebred wheaten terrier i was given a few years ago. something sounded fishy so i called the breeder and said that i was also inteerested in other breeds.....she named 10 that she "bred". PUPPY MILL!!!!! destroying dog breeds through inbreeding for profit. she should be exterminated. but she was liscensed. :mad:
 
Jetboy said:
Is it reasonable to be expected to sign a contract stating that the dog can not be bread, or a penalty of $10k will be paid to the breeder for "damage to reputation"? That is the breeder that won't have anything available until July.


I would love to see someone try to enforce that contract.


One thing to look for is how many litters the dog is having or has had. It is unhealthy for a large breed to have more than 3-4 litters in it's life. Small dogs can have a few more. If they are having more than that they are abusing thier dogs for $ and that's not cool.

I would look at the living conditions of the dogs first. Also see if the parents are on site. Meeting them can give a pretty good idea of the type of dog you will recieve. Don't expect your puppy to act simlar to the 3-5 year old parents though.


The most important part of getting a good dog is you. You need to make certain that you have a stable home for it. Do you plan on moving to an appartment anytime in the next 15years? Do you really have the time and energy to exercise your new pup enough? Do you have time to train it?
Owning a dog is a big commitment. I have no idea if your ready or not. I just see so many dogs that are 1-2yrs old up for adoption because the owner didn't foresee that raising a puppy is not an easy task. Just make sure that you are a good "fit" for the dog as well as the dog being a good "fit" for you.

As far as us being ready, we are as ready as we will be. We have been talking about this for about 2 years now. We have been loosly talking and learning about breed options for most of that time. Of course that has intensified lately as we are getting closer.

We live in a house with a fenced back yard, and will not move to an apartment ever . . . barring of course any unforseen problems. And it would be a last resort.

We have thought long and hard about whether we will be able to give a dog a good home and have decided that we will.
 
hooptie said:
riiiight :|


:confused:



not many aside from eric use ............:|






hmmmmm....
 
It's clear that emotions run pretty high when it comes to dogs (and for good reason.... they're awesome). I do think everything should look into rescue dogs, perhaps there's a perfect companion out there right in your area (there was for me) but sometimes people's hearts are set on something else. It happens... (We should all try dating ugly girls for their personalities, too, but we all know how our hearts sometimes don't steer us that way).

Anyhow.... my best advice is still to do your research, ask other owners or even reputable vets in your areas about good breeders, and interview the prospective breeders about health issues/genetic lines/etc. You can teach a shy dog to be more social, but trying to train them to get rid of his hip dysplasia might be tougher. If you were buying a used Cruiser for the first time, you'd probably do a Carfax and ask any Cruiser owners you could find all about them, doing the equivalent for your next dog is the least you can do. Find some newfie owners!
 
Johnnymiz said:
make sure u are buying a house bred dog....a dog whose mother lives in the home of the breeder. VISIT the breeder to see the mom. i looked into the peigree of a purebred wheaten terrier i was given a few years ago. something sounded fishy so i called the breeder and said that i was also inteerested in other breeds.....she named 10 that she "bred". PUPPY MILL!!!!! destroying dog breeds through inbreeding for profit. she should be exterminated. but she was liscensed. :mad:

Ya that's what I'm trying to make sure of. I will make sure to visit it the breeder for a couple hours.

From what I can tell they only breed Newfies and nothing else. From reading their webstie they seem to be pretty good, but it doesn't look like it has been updated in a while
http://www.rosethornnewfoundlands.ca/
 
Look for a Newfoundland forum and read it for awhile. You will soon learn who the prefered breeders are in the forum. I have had my next lab picked out for over 3 years and it will probably be another 5 or so before I buy. I have been in contact with the breeder, and I have kept track of some of the pups coming out of that breeder.
 

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