who put in a lockrite how is it good i have 1991 hzj73 open diff and i want a lockrite in the rear.does a 60 or 80 series unit fit in any 9.5 inch diff if somebody have a part number..... thanks im in canada so maybe a cdn bj 70 will fit help please
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Really, save up and get an ARB.
Your HZJ73 deserves so much better than a Lock-Right.
~John
Your HZJ73 deserves so much better than a Lock-Right.
~John
I'm running Aussie lockers front and rear in my 70 and am happy with them so far. It's not my daily driver but I haven't noticed any scary handling characteristics yet. Its a mountain goat off road and they are cheap like borsch.
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on the outside, pocket lockers look the same... but they are not.
read 100 posts on lockrites, and 100 on Aussies... You'll notice more failures and "handling" problems on lockrites...
"Very low backlash
The"Aussie Locker" has approximately 1/2 the backlash of some other automatic lockers. The design use specialized low profile gear sets (small, wide teeth) which have almost zero backlash when engaged resulting in smoother operation. Any backlash present in the locker occurs between the cross shaft acting in the grove cut in the cam gear. Because the camming operation is smooth and progressive, rather than sharp and abrupt, it results in well mannered handling characteristics over other automatic lockers."
buy whatever you want though... Just don't say you were warned...
read 100 posts on lockrites, and 100 on Aussies... You'll notice more failures and "handling" problems on lockrites...
"Very low backlash
The"Aussie Locker" has approximately 1/2 the backlash of some other automatic lockers. The design use specialized low profile gear sets (small, wide teeth) which have almost zero backlash when engaged resulting in smoother operation. Any backlash present in the locker occurs between the cross shaft acting in the grove cut in the cam gear. Because the camming operation is smooth and progressive, rather than sharp and abrupt, it results in well mannered handling characteristics over other automatic lockers."
buy whatever you want though... Just don't say you were warned...
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Well Ideally I'd recomend arb's, but if you want the lunchbox type I'd go for the lockright. 1630 fits the 9.5 and 1610 fits the 8" hipinion w/ 2pinion carrier. We stock all of them.
Well Ideally I'd recomend arb's, but if you want the lunchbox type I'd go for the lockright. 1630 fits the 9.5 and 1610 fits the 8" hipinion w/ 2pinion carrier. We stock all of them.
Hi All:
I have both the Lockrite (rear axle) and the Aussie Locker (front axle) in my 40 Series.
Installation-wise they are pretty much the same. The Lockrite I installed in like 2003 (?) and have had no troubles at all. From what I've heard the Lockrite is now produced by a different company so that might have changed things??
The Aussie Locker went into the front diff in 2007 IIRC. Had some troubles at first because the guys that installed it forgot to use the side shims! Had to pull the front chunk to figure out the issue. No problems since it was re-installed correctly.
My advice for a trouble-free driving experience with a "lunch-box locker" in the rearend is to be sure that the air pressure in both rear tires is the same, and use 85W140 gear oil in that diff. If the tire pressure is not the same on the tires the rotating radius will change, while the thicker gear oil help "buffer" the locker's actions.
Regards,
Alan
I have both the Lockrite (rear axle) and the Aussie Locker (front axle) in my 40 Series.
Installation-wise they are pretty much the same. The Lockrite I installed in like 2003 (?) and have had no troubles at all. From what I've heard the Lockrite is now produced by a different company so that might have changed things??
The Aussie Locker went into the front diff in 2007 IIRC. Had some troubles at first because the guys that installed it forgot to use the side shims! Had to pull the front chunk to figure out the issue. No problems since it was re-installed correctly.
My advice for a trouble-free driving experience with a "lunch-box locker" in the rearend is to be sure that the air pressure in both rear tires is the same, and use 85W140 gear oil in that diff. If the tire pressure is not the same on the tires the rotating radius will change, while the thicker gear oil help "buffer" the locker's actions.
Regards,
Alan
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thanks evryone for your opinion very apreciate
ARB are s***, (not the s***z) simple as that.
if you are going to spend the cash then go with the factory electric locker.
i have run the Lincon lockers for years, lots of tire wear.
i have run the lockrite, on the short wheel base you notice torque steer but livable in a 73
i have a lokka in the exwhite bush pig and loved it, not as much torque steer.
i have electric front and rear in my rag top and you can not get better.
i do not recommend locking the front up since it is easier and usually cleaner to run a winch than change a birf in the bush.
just saying...
if you are going to spend the cash then go with the factory electric locker.
i have run the Lincon lockers for years, lots of tire wear.
i have run the lockrite, on the short wheel base you notice torque steer but livable in a 73
i have a lokka in the exwhite bush pig and loved it, not as much torque steer.
i have electric front and rear in my rag top and you can not get better.
i do not recommend locking the front up since it is easier and usually cleaner to run a winch than change a birf in the bush.
just saying...
And why do you think that? Myself and lots of my mates run ARB's with minimal issues. 95% of issues we come across are due to poor installation. Sure they may not be the ducks nuts, but they are far from s***.
Autolockers have given my mates more problems than its worth
you said it yourself "run ARB's with minimal issues."
for the money that it costs to buy and install the ARB crap you can get factory elockers and no issues.
you need the ARB, air supply (usually a compressor), ring and pinion set up (new or used) and then you have a vunerable air line hanging down, freezing of the air in cold temps...
lunch box lockers, install properly and done for a fraction of the price and work invested.
electric come complete third members, bolt them in, hook up the switch and done. they are not affected by tempuratures, flip a switch and away you go.
for the money that it costs to buy and install the ARB crap you can get factory elockers and no issues.
you need the ARB, air supply (usually a compressor), ring and pinion set up (new or used) and then you have a vunerable air line hanging down, freezing of the air in cold temps...
lunch box lockers, install properly and done for a fraction of the price and work invested.
electric come complete third members, bolt them in, hook up the switch and done. they are not affected by tempuratures, flip a switch and away you go.
Have to agree with crushers. Almost every one that I know that run ARB's have had as issue or two. E locked or cable locked is the way to go. I run e locked up front and a locrite in the rear. I have had no problems with the pocket locker for 4 years and so far no problem with the e locker up front. If my e locker stops working simply remove the electric motor, slide the the shaft over reinstall the motor and now your locked. 
Try that with an Arb.
Try that with an Arb.This is from a bloke on another cruiser forum,
I have 79 with the factory diff locks. All I can say is they work great but don't get them wet. I have 20k on vehicle rear stopped working took it back for warranty. It had water in it so not covered $1800 for accuator. No water in front or rear diff or front diff lock. Stil can't work out how water got in.
Thoughts??
I would like a e locker for the rear of my 79 but not if they are fish tanks
I have 79 with the factory diff locks. All I can say is they work great but don't get them wet. I have 20k on vehicle rear stopped working took it back for warranty. It had water in it so not covered $1800 for accuator. No water in front or rear diff or front diff lock. Stil can't work out how water got in.
Thoughts??
I would like a e locker for the rear of my 79 but not if they are fish tanks
Are they a drop in replacement to non-factory-locked axle housings?
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I see a very few failures in ARB air lockers when installed by experienced people
-failures in early lockers were due to a design fault, ARB rectified that in later versions
-other failures are almost always due to poor installations by unknowing techs
-the seals do need maintenance from time to time depending on use
Lock-Rights, Aussies, and other lunch box units
-work okay, but have some annoying quirks
-cost effective
-not really that great in the front end
-installation quality can affect your experience
-most problems are with weak diff carriers such as found in the small Jeep axles and others that are made with small parts
Welded, Lincoln etc.
-shed metal and eat bearings and gear faces depending on how the welding was done
-really not a good idea in a front end
-only as strong as the stock "heat treated" carrier
-super cheap for super cheap people
-personally, I frown on these
Full carrier lockers such as the Detroit
-strong carrier
-generally much better than the lunch box units due to a stronger carrier and better engage/disengage camming
-smoother, usually nicer to drive with
E-lockers
-strong carrier and design
-work well if you respect the design parameters and coarse dog teeth
-would have to say they have a somewhat higher failure rate than ARBs related to the electrics/motor
-need to have full floaters
-slow to engage due to coarse dog teeth
-water intrusion, relay faults, motor faults, broken dog teeth all are hard on these
Cable lockers
-reliable, strong
-have to have full floater, need a longer spline on one axle shaft
-slow to engage due to coarse dog teeth not lining up
-must work within design parameters and respect the design limitations (as above by engaging them gently, then using them and not just beating on them before they're engaged - same goes with the E-locker)
-cables can get stiff if water gets into the housing
-mechanism can get stiff if water gets in
Take your pick, they all have issues if you don't install them right and abuse the product.
For the aftermarket, I really prefer the Air Lockers. I have been running these and installing them for just over 20 years now... they are a good product, with good product support.
~John
-failures in early lockers were due to a design fault, ARB rectified that in later versions
-other failures are almost always due to poor installations by unknowing techs
-the seals do need maintenance from time to time depending on use
Lock-Rights, Aussies, and other lunch box units
-work okay, but have some annoying quirks
-cost effective
-not really that great in the front end
-installation quality can affect your experience
-most problems are with weak diff carriers such as found in the small Jeep axles and others that are made with small parts
Welded, Lincoln etc.
-shed metal and eat bearings and gear faces depending on how the welding was done
-really not a good idea in a front end
-only as strong as the stock "heat treated" carrier
-super cheap for super cheap people
-personally, I frown on these
Full carrier lockers such as the Detroit
-strong carrier
-generally much better than the lunch box units due to a stronger carrier and better engage/disengage camming
-smoother, usually nicer to drive with
E-lockers
-strong carrier and design
-work well if you respect the design parameters and coarse dog teeth
-would have to say they have a somewhat higher failure rate than ARBs related to the electrics/motor
-need to have full floaters
-slow to engage due to coarse dog teeth
-water intrusion, relay faults, motor faults, broken dog teeth all are hard on these
Cable lockers
-reliable, strong
-have to have full floater, need a longer spline on one axle shaft
-slow to engage due to coarse dog teeth not lining up
-must work within design parameters and respect the design limitations (as above by engaging them gently, then using them and not just beating on them before they're engaged - same goes with the E-locker)
-cables can get stiff if water gets into the housing
-mechanism can get stiff if water gets in
Take your pick, they all have issues if you don't install them right and abuse the product.
For the aftermarket, I really prefer the Air Lockers. I have been running these and installing them for just over 20 years now... they are a good product, with good product support.
~John
Right now i have a E-Locker in my 70 series (rear axle), but i was use the Lock-Right in my 40 series rear-axle (sold), is a great locker...
...ARB, dont like me
good luck mate!
...ARB, dont like me
good luck mate!
Just installed an Aussie Locker on the front of my LJ78. I chose the front because it isn't active in normal road use in 2 wheel drive. I really like simplicity, and you can't get much simpler than an Aussie Locker. No air lines, or electrics to fail. Of course, I could do without the quirks, but it seems you have to pick your poison and act accordingly. For me, budget was an issue and parts availability. My first choice would be factory e-lockers, but I am really impressed with how smooth the Aussie is, and how invisible it is too. I probably also have fewer side-effects because I have an auto tranny and LWB. I would recommend an Aussie locker to anyone... maybe until I break the birfs anyway. (that was for you Crushers 
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nice write up.
so to clarify, you can engage the ARB under full throttle in the mud with no repercussions?
(since you say the electric and cable should not be, and i agree with that statement (read common sense usage))
so to clarify, you can engage the ARB under full throttle in the mud with no repercussions?
(since you say the electric and cable should not be, and i agree with that statement (read common sense usage))