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is the FJ (out of the box) going to be up to par with the rubicon?
(don't get me wrong, i dislike heeps too, but i'm struggling to take a side.)
 
It seems the only thing it will lack is solid front axle and front locker (major deal for many "hard core" rock crawler types), so it will depend on it's intended mission for it's buyer I suppose! :) Overall versatility on/off road, reliability, comfort, power, all that (and more) goes to the FJ Cruiser. :D
 
I don't think it's in the same catagory at all. The FJ Cruiser is alot bigger.

Well out of the box, it's going to be the most capable SUV Toyota has made in a while. That's just from the stats:
RR Locker/ ATRAC, clean underbelly (moved the gas tank to the rear, spare is tailgate mounted), short wheelbase for tighter trails, "spray down" interior, plenty of power & torque (lots of mods wont bog it down), BFG AT 32's stock, great approach/departure angles, factory rocksliders

The FJ C clears up all the offroad deficiencies the GX/4R/Prado have so I'm impressed.

Someone can buy an FJ, invest very little money in a 3" lift and be able to wheel alot of stuff straight away. Invest another $800 when the ARB front locker comes out... I think it's going to be pretty tempting.

On top of that, everything I read says it will be made in Japan, so it will be the best made under $30K 4x4 on the market.

How does it compare to a Rubicon? I've spent a little wheeling time w/ Rubicons and they are pretty impressive offroad, they have tons of mods, support and community. Only way to know is when someone takes one out with some Jeeps but they seem at home rockcrawling and the FJC's mission isn't that, I don't think.
 
Like everyone else has been saying, it all depends on what your intentions are. Right outta the box, the Rubicon has a huge advantage over the FJC. If you are into moderate or extreme trails, the Jeep is a no brainer. Even if you throw in modifications, the gab between the Rubicon and FJC will only grow. My opinion is, if you want something that can truly go off-road and handle some serious terrain, the Jeep is the way to go. If you care about on road handling dynamics and aren't going to really push your vehicle that hard off road, the FJC makes more sense.
 

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