last of the FJ Cruiser

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If anyone in the automotive industry (Purchasing or Sales) will tell you, the amortization of a vehicle can vary from 4 years to 8 years depending on the platform. To cancel a vehicle in mid production is unheard of within Toyota.

I think it's the work of a dealer to be honest with you.
 
The dealers in Canada are also telling buyers this.
Present stock excluded, getting an FJC will no longer be an option.
They are blaming this descision on $6.72 a gallon fuel prices.
 
I work for Toyota at a manufacturing plant, so take this for what you will. Toyota uses what is called a Global Body Line in their plants. What this means is, one line runs two or more models. The FJC shares what is referred to as an underbody with the 4Runner, GX470, etc. The underbody is basically the floor pan. Now, the rear floor and center floor are different though. The rear floor is the cargo area, the center floor is the rear footwell area. However, they are run on the same line, on the same machines. The only difference is the robot pics up the shorter floor pieces or the longer floor pieces. But the MC(motor compartment), dash(what most people call a firewall) and the front floor is pretty much the same, with the big difference being the "dragonfly" which is the tranny tunnel and the stuff the seats in the front bolt to(it looks like a dragon fly before it is welded in). The side members are different(the outer body skin from the a-pillar back) and some of the inner pieces are different, but the investment is made. The employees are trained, the robots are programmed, the jigs are built. There is really NO reason to kill it in the middle of the run. They may cut the hijunka way back(hijunka is a Japanese word that basically means the build ratio like one FJC for every 5 4Runners), but they wont kill it as long as it is selling somewhat. To give you an example of the flexiblity of the GBL, the Camry, Camry hybrid, Solara Convertible, Solara Coupe(now extinct) and the upcoming Venza all have been built on the EXACT same line in the same day. This is why toyota is so flexible in the lean times.
 
I think the rumor was started by T's response "there would be only styling for the FJC."

There was no word on how many years that will run. Simple, no sales will equal no production and they can make that decision quickly to either shift production to a hotter model, idle the plant, adjust supply to help with the CAFE regs etc. I wouldn't start becoming concerned until 4Runners and GX 470's change, it could be the odd man out at that time if the truck segment continues to slow.
 
I work for Toyota at a manufacturing plant, so take this for what you will. Toyota uses what is called a Global Body Line in their plants. What this means is, one line runs two or more models. The FJC shares what is referred to as an underbody with the 4Runner, GX470, etc. The underbody is basically the floor pan.

Are you talking about the floorpan stamping plant, or the vehicle assembly line for the FJ?

If they don't share the same assembly line, it could end up being too costly to keep the line running for a slow selling model. Right now sales are about 1/4 what they were a their peak according to Wikipedia (which may or may not be accurate). I don't know what the breakeven point is. The good news is the tooling must be getting close (or is) paid for, so profit margins would be going up for Toyota on the FJ.

Michael
 
Im a noobie to the offroad scene i have the 07 fj my first 4x4 ive always wanted one (a 4x4) i traded in a dodge dakota ,no four wheel drive, for the fj and i absoblutely love it i took it wheelin in sand dunes in the pine barrens in NJ fully stock it handled great pushed it a little and no problems but any way im glad to here that its just a rumor. Hate to see them take a good thing and ruin it! Just my thoughts ;)
 
But they're introducing the stretch limo version of the MegaCruiser, right? I can't wait to get my hands on that!
 
Rumour or not, the FJC's days are numbered.

No worries; since I can still get OEM parts from any dealer for my '84 mini truck and my '91 FJ80, I bet I will be able to get parts for my FJC for a long long time.
 
Rumour or not, the FJC's days are numbered. It's a fuel pig niche vehicle with a rapidly shrinking and geographically limited market. And it will be killed off decades before Toyota even thinks of touching the profitable and worldwide Hilux/Prado/4Runner line.

I'm surprised the Jeep has made it this long with that logic the jeep should have been gone in the 70's :rolleyes:
 
...and what is the LandRover...and the new Hummer H3T. All niche vehicles...

I dont think the FJ is going to be discontinued this year......cut production numbers....rework some issues and have a new version released.
 
According to Automotive News, the FJ Cruiser will live out it's product life cycle and will not be replaced when the current generation expires in a couple more model years. The 4Runner, which was far along in development will carry on as a body-on-frame vehicle for at least one more generation and the Tacoma will have an eight year life cycle, not to be replaced until 2013. AN recently revealed Toyota's future product plans, which show the automaker moving away from the enthusiast niche vehicles like the FJ Cruiser to instead focus on the new fuel efficiency standards.
 
AN recently revealed Toyota's future product plans, which show the automaker moving away from the enthusiast niche vehicles like the FJ Cruiser to instead focus on the new fuel efficiency standards.

BOOORRRING! All the car companies seem to go through this phase, and all end up going back building niche vehicles, because everyone loses interest in their products without them. The auto companies need the publicity and showroom traffic building of niche vehicles, and they couldn't buy enough advertising to make up for the deficit in marketing left behind without them.

Michael
 
...and what is the LandRover...and the new Hummer H3T. All niche vehicles...

I dont think the FJ is going to be discontinued this year......cut production numbers....rework some issues and have a new version released.

Land Rover was doing so poorly it was recently sold to Tata Motors, India. (as was Jaguar)

The Hummer H3T was ready to roll out too late to be stopped. The Hummer brand is being sold off as well. GM is currently giving dealers incentives and buyout pkgs to close out failing dealerships.

There is a huge paradigm shift going on in the auto industry and the key drivers to success in the next 50 yrs seems to be hybrid, alternative energy and fuel efficient.

There well maybe niche vehicles, there always is. But the niches maybe more in the likes of a JW MiniCooper or Smart Brabus and not 4x4's.

The good thing is the remaining 4x4's will have to be concentrated and really hit the target buyers. There will be no need to "please the masses". So the few remaining might be more exciting.
The flipside is they may also be more expensive. That is the trend in the fullsize truck market. They are better but more expensive, the logic being those that need them will buy no matter the fuel prices.
 
maybe they are just getting ready to reintroduce FJ Cruiser as the FJ120 with a stronger frame....better body components...diesel engine to compete in the Camel Challenge against Land Rover. :D :D :D :D


Hey I can dream cant I....
 
I wish Toyota would do something like that, but I doubt it would happen. The new 4Runner/Prado platform is, to my knowledge, delayed until 2013. If you think about it they have no where to really go with the FJ. There is not much that can be done about the styling, and as far as the actual platform goes they won't make a completely new one just for the FJ. As much as I hate to say it, there seems little to no hope for a new FJ with solid axles or a diesel.
 

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