Intercooler 3B/ Turbo Project......

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Now is that 6 inches wide as in the path the air takes across it, or does the air flow through the 12 inch section. Lots of intercoolers are designed for fit and not for effeciency. What I said is hard to describe, but is the intercooler long and narrow, or tall and skinny. Now that doesnt make and sence either, do you have a link?

So a 3.5 inch core is pretty thick for most normal fans to push air through. A front mount has an 8hp fan attached to it, so it can easily run air through. A top mount intercooler has a scoop to do it and and maybe an electric fan to help. I can tell you that I struggled to get any air at all through my 4 inch core with anything short of a 40 amp fan. I have a taurus fan I played with to test flow through the core. A normal cheapo 7 amp ebay fan couldnt drop my intake charge at idle 1 degree F in my driveway! Absolutely no air could be felt passing through the core at all. At highway speeds I was getting cooling, but effeciency was much lower (67%) than I thought the core could do. I think a good small spal fan would do the trick(40amps), but it doesnt get around the fact that the core is very very thick. Now stack a 3 inch fan on top of a 4 inch core and you get a serously tall set up for a top mount. A 3 inch would net greater passive effeceincy and would still have very little pressure drop at the cfms our engines put throught it and would fit much better.

The short of it is: if you want a more effecent intercooler, get one with lots of surface area that is shallow. Air flows through it easily with lots of internal volume for low pressure drop. Sadly, usually those kinds of intercoolers only like to fit in front of your radiator.

6" is the widest part the air passes through.

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=230&cat_key=65&prodname=CV12.5+intercooler+core

I am not going to be doing a puller fan by the looks of things at this point. Have a read at this.
It's far better to run a proper scoop which I am having issues trying to find one that I would like.

http://www.are.com.au/Inter/topMountIntercoolers.htm

Warning its a heavy read.
 
Gerg,

I am looking at a treadstone performance intercooler (6x12x3.5) which has produced 90% efficiency at 24lbs of boost, coupled with their cool foiled end tanks. The core is rated to 750cfm which is good for 20lbs of boost on the 1hz at 8000ft. Why run a thinner core?

What external flow (air through the core and temperature) to acheive that?

Thinner cores cool better, especially with slower airflow as it doesn't heat as much on the way through.
 
What external flow (air through the core and temperature) to acheive that?

Thinner cores cool better, especially with slower airflow as it doesn't heat as much on the way through.

That I will have to find out.
I'm just trying to consider my top mount options it's really tight in there.
TSP has really nice end tanks that spread the airflow out nicely because of the louvers

I know the ARE guys are running 3" cores with no pullers. My thoughts were if I could stick a bigger core in that has a larger CFM requirement that it should easily be able to cool my turbos air charge for the psi range I am planning on running and overall engine air requirements

Really I am after cooling while cruising (50km/h and above) because that is where I am getting into the sustained boost
 
Ok so I had major exhaust leaks and boost leaks to deal with. An EGT gauge is absolutely key for turboing diesels. That and the boost gauge can reallly tell you a lot. Anyway it's all tightened up and I did some testing last night:
Wide open throttle pull max. boost is 1 bar.
@ 60mph it gets ....4-.5 bar and runs 800-850F EGT
@ 70mph it gets ....7 bar..................950F.....2600RPM
4th gear loaded pull:
@ 1000RPM -.2 bar
@ 1500RPM -.4 bar
@ 2000RPM -.7 bar

I think it works well and it's within normal limits for all temperatures.
 
I just turned my fuel up another 1/2 turn and the results are again amazing. Full boost is now 1.2 bar.
It really sings now.
 
I'd keep an eye on your egt's on big hills . It seems like you have the potential to heat it up a bit if you run that kind of boost . Looks good though. That truck looks good for the east coast . Do you see many more of them around where you are ?
 
I'd keep an eye on your egt's on big hills . It seems like you have the potential to heat it up a bit if you run that kind of boost .

Boost cools EGT. More boost = lower temps.
 
Engine bay looks great - can you take a close up photo in around your air filter setup? I'm looking for the best spot to locate mine.

Dan
 
I've held it to the floor up long hills to see what the upper EGTs would be and it never goes above 1100F. Perhaps while hauling my military trailer?
I may turn up the fuel another 1/2 turn.

I'll get a couple more photos for y'all of the air cleaner/snorkle business.
B/C I'm running grease as well the engine bay is now packed. It took lots of fabbing by my friend Chris to make it all fit.

I never see 40 series anymore on the east coast. Daryl in NS has a perfect one he's completely rebuilt which is for sale. You could eat off any part of it. He's on the forum here as "fjbj40".
 
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Boost cools EGT. More boost = lower temps.

In order to achieve more boost you have to add fuel yes ? I would think at some point adding more fuel will create more heat on big hills no ? I was simply remarking that it is maybe something he should pay attention to and he is , so thanks for the tip .
 
In order to achieve more boost you have to add fuel yes ? I would think at some point adding more fuel will create more heat on big hills no ? I was simply remarking that it is maybe something he should pay attention to and he is , so thanks for the tip .

That all depends what is limiting boost.
If it is the wastegate, then adjusting the wastegate will give more boost with no fuelling change.
If it is the turbine geometry, then changing that (fitting a smaller A/R exhaust housing etc) will also give more boost with no fuelling change.

But yes, more fuel to gain more boost will always raise EGT.
 
just changed out the governor spring in my IP for the longer MB variety, tuned it and went for a 1300km trip:
23mpg driving 70mph (32" tires, 411 gears).
EGT never exceeded 1050F on the biggest hills on the mat.
The mid rev responsiveness is amazing. The is next to zero lag.
 

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