isn't that the whole point of MUD?
turbocruiser,
I agree the turbo is better but
SC = $3500
AVO turbo = $7400
the SC sounds expensive until you price the turbo...
info on new FZJ80 SUPERCHARGERS finally
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isn't that the whole point of MUD?
turbocruiser,
I agree the turbo is better but
SC = $3500
AVO turbo = $7400
the SC sounds expensive until you price the turbo...
Ting- Thanks for the MPG info. I had read that info regarding the old S/C's as well as the install threads etc. So from what I understand the new S/C's are the same as the old ones.
I have read George's install page and have seen his list of tools/materials. The install seems to be within my range of abilities, and it will probably will take me 2-3 times as long (at least 2 full Saturdays). So my question is beside the tools/materials George recommends are there any "hidden" costs to adding a S/C?
$3300+shipping from Dan +tools/locktite/shinkwrap etc. +2 Saturdays time and I'm in business?
My rig has 141K and had a Lexus Dealer installed Head Gasket at about 100K by the PO. I drive like a grandpa so I'm hoping adding an S/C won't blow my engine
Hmmm, I wonder if I could add an S/C and use this same justification with the
. I am seriously contemplating buying one of these new S/C kits. Can anyone give me some serious reasons as to why I shouldn't buy a S/C besides potentially having a very angry
? Dan said my secret is safe with him so unless these things make a "blow off" sound like those rice rocket turbo's do, I should be in the clear.
Trunk Monkey
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They do make a lovely high-pitched whine/vacuum noise on a quiet road in the cool, morning air at WOT.
Edit: It took me a while to write that last post.
Landtank: Thanks for your input. Those are definitely things to consider.
Maybe I should just put around in the old NA 1FZ-FE until I could either do a turbo or maybe swap the engine out for something else.
This is one heck of a tough decision.
Landtank: Thanks for your input. Those are definitely things to consider.
Maybe I should just put around in the old NA 1FZ-FE until I could either do a turbo or maybe swap the engine out for something else.
This is one heck of a tough decision.
Nicholas - If you are in Nor Cal, I will let you test drive mine. 
Very nice, I think that would give it away for sure. Or maybe I could say "honey, it sounds like the engine is having some troubles and I need to dump some more student loans into the cruiser."
Who am I kidding, I'm going to hell.
Nicholas - If you are in Nor Cal, I will let you test drive mine.
Dang, I wish I was. I appreciate the offer. Is there anyone in the midwest that has a TRD S/C that is willing to let me take a test drive?
This is from TRD Catalog....
That’s also why TRD uses superchargers rather than turbochargers – power. Both designs do a good job of boosting top-end power – but what about low-end? While turbo engines wait for the turbocharger to “spool up,” the crank-driven supercharged engine is accelerating off into the sunset! TRD superchargers are tuned to deliver more torque and horsepower from idle to redline, giving you immediate throttle response. That way, you get the power and torque of a larger displacement engine when you want it… and the lighter weight and greater efficiency of a smaller engine when you don’t.
RELIABILITY GUARANTEED
When you’re bolting something to your engine, you need to know its
pedigree. So here is ours: TRD Superchargers are engineered with the
same attention to detail and reliability as your Toyota or Scion. They have
been tested on their respective engines to the equivalent of over 100,000
miles and have shown no added wear or engine component failures.
And when installed by a Toyota dealer, TRD Superchargers carry a 12-month
warranty, regardless of mileage, or the balance of the new car 5 year, 60,000
mile powertrain warranty, whichever is greater. Only TRD Superchargers offer
this unique combination of performance, reliability and warranty protection
That’s also why TRD uses superchargers rather than turbochargers – power. Both designs do a good job of boosting top-end power – but what about low-end? While turbo engines wait for the turbocharger to “spool up,” the crank-driven supercharged engine is accelerating off into the sunset! TRD superchargers are tuned to deliver more torque and horsepower from idle to redline, giving you immediate throttle response. That way, you get the power and torque of a larger displacement engine when you want it… and the lighter weight and greater efficiency of a smaller engine when you don’t.
RELIABILITY GUARANTEED
When you’re bolting something to your engine, you need to know its
pedigree. So here is ours: TRD Superchargers are engineered with the
same attention to detail and reliability as your Toyota or Scion. They have
been tested on their respective engines to the equivalent of over 100,000
miles and have shown no added wear or engine component failures.
And when installed by a Toyota dealer, TRD Superchargers carry a 12-month
warranty, regardless of mileage, or the balance of the new car 5 year, 60,000
mile powertrain warranty, whichever is greater. Only TRD Superchargers offer
this unique combination of performance, reliability and warranty protection
Man I am torn. I have been doing some WIKI and mud research and from what I can tell, the S/C seems more suited to my driving style as I rarely get the engine over 3k RPM and I probably wouldn't be able to appreciate the high end spooling of a turbo. It seems like this TRD S/C is an answer to my problem of feeling bogged down going over mtn passes.
BLarsens subaru intercooler writeup seems to be a pretty good $500 solution to these systems not having an intercooler.
BLarsens subaru intercooler writeup seems to be a pretty good $500 solution to these systems not having an intercooler.
Nicholas,
I know exactly what you are talking about, except that I am not married.
I was contemplating getting the SC, and I finally placed my order on Tuesday, yeahhh.
Through my process of convincing myself that I needed one of these
, I asked my friends (just like you), what they thought about it.
My friend that helps me do work on my cruiser (therefore, very important opinion), said to me: I can’t tell you to buy it because it is not my money, but I will tell you that If you buy it you’ll be hurting for while, and eventually the pain will go away. However, if you don’t buy, you will be hurting and suffering for the rest of your life and wondering what if…, will it have made a difference or not, loosing sleep, etc.
Very wise thought from a good friend. I don’t want to suffer for to long, so I bought it. I know that in reality all he wants is free steaks and beers.
Anyhow, in a more serious tone, I have read about people not getting it when they had the chance, and how much they regret it, and now that we have the opportunity, I’d say go for it and stop the pain !!!
I know exactly what you are talking about, except that I am not married.
I was contemplating getting the SC, and I finally placed my order on Tuesday, yeahhh.
Through my process of convincing myself that I needed one of these
, I asked my friends (just like you), what they thought about it.My friend that helps me do work on my cruiser (therefore, very important opinion), said to me: I can’t tell you to buy it because it is not my money, but I will tell you that If you buy it you’ll be hurting for while, and eventually the pain will go away. However, if you don’t buy, you will be hurting and suffering for the rest of your life and wondering what if…, will it have made a difference or not, loosing sleep, etc.
Very wise thought from a good friend. I don’t want to suffer for to long, so I bought it. I know that in reality all he wants is free steaks and beers.
Anyhow, in a more serious tone, I have read about people not getting it when they had the chance, and how much they regret it, and now that we have the opportunity, I’d say go for it and stop the pain !!!
California Emissions?
Does anyone know if this new setup approved by CARB?
-mt
Does anyone know if this new setup approved by CARB?
-mt
seems like Romer added a aux fan and it's good to go? That's maybe $200 tops?
Yes I am sure they are fantastic systems. clownmidget had the Safari and said it was much better than the SC. I have no doubt Slee's will be excellent.
However, I am never going to spend that much on what I consider 'gravy'. I'm debating on the SC as a way to make the freeway drives more enjoyable & maybe boost power at high altitude but I'm not looking for anything more.
No way I'm willing to double that SC $ as that money can be far better spent elsewhere, for me.
To be honest -
When you are cruising 60-80MPH on freeway, SC will not make difference. A different story around town, passing cars, freeway entrance, and going up to mountain.
When you are cruising 60-80MPH on freeway, SC will not make difference. A different story around town, passing cars, freeway entrance, and going up to mountain.
Why not pull the front D/S and run it on a two wheel dyno? Seems pretty easy to do?????
Nicholas,
I know exactly what you are talking about, except that I am not married.
I was contemplating getting the SC, and I finally placed my order on Tuesday, yeahhh.
Through my process of convincing myself that I needed one of these
My friend that helps me do work on my cruiser (therefore, very important opinion), said to me: I can’t tell you to buy it because it is not my money, but I will tell you that If you buy it you’ll be hurting for while, and eventually the pain will go away. However, if you don’t buy, you will be hurting and suffering for the rest of your life and wondering what if…, will it have made a difference or not, loosing sleep, etc.
Very wise thought from a good friend. I don’t want to suffer for to long, so I bought it. I know that in reality all he wants is free steaks and beers.
Anyhow, in a more serious tone, I have read about people not getting it when they had the chance, and how much they regret it, and now that we have the opportunity, I’d say go for it and stop the pain !!!
Damnit hzavarce,
You are making it even harder for me not to go ahead and order one of these from Dan when he is back from powell. However, I appreciate your comments. I have been thinking along the same lines. I was kicking myself a couple years ago when I saw one for sale but didn't get it. The only thing is that I won't be "hurting" for a short while, most likely a lot longer. I am in my second year of grad school so I won't even begin to start paying off my loans for another 5 or 6 years. When you consider interest, I will end up paying a little more than 2X$3300 when its all said and done. For once I am glad Dan is out of town because it gives me time to think about this.
It's 50 state legal. For us California folks, the TRD supercharger may be the only game in town. I know Dusty in Hanford runs a home-brew turbo, but I think he did that to an out-of-state rig before it came in-state, so his rules would be different from mine.
I have a California rig that has never left the state, so I wouldn't take my chances with CARB on anything except the TRD.
Trunk Monkey, I was looking at the setup (ordered my SC already) and it looks like it could easily accommodate an intercooler...but where to put it??? Do you have any old threads with info on your intercooler set up?
Have you seen Larsens set up? The hood scoop looks pretty tight and functional.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/149478-intercooler-trd-supercharger.html
Trunk Monkey
Moderator
Look for my ROTW thread or a recent thread by dhanney (he has my truck now). Airlaird found a source for for a box that's got to be where they got mine and made mods to it. Also, blarsen did an IC, look for a write up by him.
