I put some new Tires on the 200!

[jdlc1406]

They look great! Went with the 275/70-18 KO2s.

They really changed the look of the vehicle. It's slightly taller with the taller tires; the stock 285/60s. I'm not sure how much though. No rubbing whatsoever. So I just need my Prinsu rack to come in! I am reconsidering window tint. I don't want to mess up and get a "blue" tint, and I don't want anything really dark. And I am wondering if it won't look just as great without tint. We'll see. I may change my mind. I am not sure when the Prinsu comes in, but I'll post up an install thread/build with lots of photos for everyone.

 

[mreedbmwm3]

Now you're Cruising!

 

[Markuson]

They look great! Went with the 275/70-18 KO2s.

They really changed the look of the vehicle. It's slightly taller with the taller tires; the stock 285/60s. I'm not sure how much though. No rubbing whatsoever. So I just need my Prinsu rack to come in! I am reconsidering window tint. I don't want to mess up and get a "blue" tint, and I don't want anything really dark. And I am wondering if it won't look just as great without tint. We'll see. I may change my mind. I am not sure when the Prinsu comes in, but I'll post up an install thread/build with lots of photos for everyone.

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Nice!

 

[linuxgod]

They look great! Went with the 275/70-18 KO2s. They really changed the look of the vehicle. It's slightly taller with the taller tires; the stock 285/60s. I'm not sure how much though.

Stock 285/60R18 is 31.5". 275/70R18 is 33.2". That's ignoring how different rim sizes affect the actual tire height though.

Tire Height Calculator

So you've added about 3/4" of clearance. Also your speedometer will read about 5% lower than your actual speed now

Speedometer Calibration

And though you probably won't bother to regear with such a relatively small change to keep the original final ratio you would need to swap in ~4.10 gears

Gear Ratio Calculator

 

[RickC5]

I'm running Michelin LTX A/T2s in 275/65-R18 simply because I could not find any tires in the stock size that had even a slightly aggressive tread design. The A/T2 would not have been my first choice, but they ARE more aggressive than the stock tires, AND they were very affordable @ $600 for all four (they are dealer take-offs from a Tundra).

The 275/65 is only slightly taller than stock, and the speedo change is minimal.

 

[gaijin]

Also your speedometer will read about 5% lower than your actual speed now

Actually ... your speedometer will read much closer to your actual speed than with stock tires And as a bonus, your odometer will read about 5% less than actual.

The trick behind this magic is the speedometer reads about 5% fast with stock (285/60-18) tires while the odometer reads accurately with stock tires. All of the metrics reported by the LC based on distance such as odometer, trip meters, distance to empty, etc. are based on stock tire size; but speed as indicated by the speedometer reads about 5% fast. That means with stock tires your speedometer will read 63 mph while your actual speed is 60 mph, and your odometer will record exactly 1000 miles for every 1000 miles driven.

With larger tires, however, the speedometer will read slower (more accurately in this case) while distance recorded by the odometer will be less than actual. That means that with tires 5% larger in circumfrence (revolutions/mile) than stock, your speedometer will read 60 mph while your actual speed is 60 mph, and your odometer will record only 950 miles for every 1000 miles driven.

I have verified this with stand alone GPS units in my LC over thousands of miles driven with both stock (285/60-18) tires and with larger (285/70-17) tires.

Further, while living in Japan for over 15 years, I found that the Japanese government requires all Japanese auto manufacturers to assure that the indicated speed on their speedometers will under no circumstances indicate a speed slower than actual. For our LC's, built in Japan, this means that for every tire size recommended for use by the manufacturer, the speedometer can not indicate a speed slower than actual. For the 2013 LC200, there are two tire sizes recommended by Toyota - P285/60-18 and LT285/70-17. The LT285/70-17 tires are about 4% larger in circumfrence than the stock tires and result in an indicated speed just slightly faster than actual.

Pretty neat, eh?

HTH

 

[jdlc1406]

Actually ... your speedometer will read much closer to your actual speed than with stock tires And as a bonus, your odometer will read about 5% less than actual.

The trick behind this magic is the speedometer reads about 5% fast with stock (285/60-18) tires while the odometer reads accurately with stock tires. All of the metrics reported by the LC based on distance such as odometer, trip meters, distance to empty, etc. are based on stock tire size; but speed as indicated by the speedometer reads about 5% fast. That means with stock tires your speedometer will read 63 mph while your actual speed is 60 mph, and your odometer will record exactly 1000 miles for every 1000 miles driven.

With larger tires, however, the speedometer will read slower (more accurately in this case) while distance recorded by the odometer will be less than actual. That means that with tires 5% larger in circumfrence (revolutions/mile) than stock, your speedometer will read 60 mph while your actual speed is 60 mph, and your odometer will record only 950 miles for every 1000 miles driven.

I have verified this with stand alone GPS units in my LC over thousands of miles driven with both stock (285/60-18) tires and with larger (285/70-17) tires.

Further, while living in Japan for over 15 years, I found that the Japanese government requires all Japanese auto manufacturers to assure that the indicated speed on their speedometers will under no circumstances indicate a speed slower than actual. For our LC's, built in Japan, this means that for every tire size recommended for use by the manufacturer, the speedometer can not indicate a speed slower than actual. For the 2013 LC200, there are two tire sizes recommended by Toyota - P285/60-18 and LT285/70-17. The LT285/70-17 tires are about 4% larger in circumfrence than the stock tires and result in an indicated speed just slightly faster than actual.

Pretty neat, eh?

HTH

Is that also why my MPG computer dropped from 16 to barely 13?

 

[linuxgod]

Actually ... your speedometer will read much closer to your actual speed than with stock tires And as a bonus, your odometer will read about 5% less than actual.

The trick behind this magic is the speedometer reads about 5% fast with stock (285/60-18) tires while the odometer reads accurately with stock tires.

Interesting, I had assumed that it's all calibrated to be spot-on from the factory. I'll have to run a GPS on my phone and see if mine is mis-calibrated as well.

 

[gaijin]

Is that also why my MPG computer dropped from 16 to barely 13?

Certainly a contributing factor. With larger tires you have travelled more miles than your odometer indicates, so when you divide a smaller number by the gallons of fuel, the result is smaller than actual. If you are relying on the dash display of mpg, that number is also falsely low for the same reason - the truck knows how much fuel was consumed, but thinks it went fewer miles.

Of course, there are other factors like increased tire weight, increased rolling resistance, etc. that will also decrease mileage.

HTH

 

[bigbassinbob]

I'm about to put some KO2's on as well. Did you buy local or online? What's the best price people have found? 4wheelparts.com has them for about $850 shipped, but they have the raised white lettering which I'm not a fan of.

 

[Markuson]

I'm about to put some KO2's on as well. Did you buy local or online? What's the best price people have found? 4wheelparts.com has them for about $850 shipped, but they have the raised white lettering which I'm not a fan of.

Flip them over and you'll have black lettering. White facing in...black out.

 

[bigbassinbob]

Flip them over and you'll have black lettering. White facing in...black out.

Good to know, thanks.

Scratch the 4wheelparts as being the cheapest, taxes and fees brings the total to $931. I've found them locally at Pep Boys for $900 total with tax not including a $50 mail-in rebate which brings total again to $850. Anyone found cheaper?

 

[mattafact]

tirebuyer.com and tirecrawler.com are my usual go tos for online tire searching.

 

[mmiifoster]

They look great! Went with the 275/70-18 KO2s.

They really changed the look of the vehicle. It's slightly taller with the taller tires; the stock 285/60s. I'm not sure how much though. No rubbing whatsoever. So I just need my Prinsu rack to come in! I am reconsidering window tint. I don't want to mess up and get a "blue" tint, and I don't want anything really dark. And I am wondering if it won't look just as great without tint. We'll see. I may change my mind. I am not sure when the Prinsu comes in, but I'll post up an install thread/build with lots of photos for everyone.

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They look great, I am considering the same tires. Can you comment on how they ride on paved roads (noise level, firmer?)
Thanks

 

[Angelo1]

Did you notice the tires looking more narrow vs the 285?

 

[Rando Kuruza]

I have that size much more narrow... I had 285/65r18 looks much better from front or back 275/70r18 looks much taller from the side... I seem to get better mileage with the 275's... That being said I like the 275's

 

[jdlc1406]

They look great, I am considering the same tires. Can you comment on how they ride on paved roads (noise level, firmer?)
Thanks

I didn't have stock tires but for a couple days before I put these on. That said, they are a lot less noisy than I expected, coming from BFG ATs in the past, and also BFG MTs. I do not believe they feel any firmer than the stock tires that were on there, but it could be my imagination. I am VERY happy with how they ride on the road. I don't think you'd be disappointed

 

[jdlc1406]

Did you notice the tires looking more narrow vs the 285?

They are narrower and taller, yes. I think they ended up being about 3/4" taller, and about 1/2" narrower

 

[Kajun]

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The tires are nice, but I love the blue. What year and what is the Toyota color?

 

[jdlc1406]

The tires are nice, but I love the blue. What year and what is the Toyota color?

Thanks! It's a 2008. The color I believe is called Pacific Blue Metallic