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I haven't ridden in almost 2 years before that I had a scattante r-330 and a old steel frame single speed I loved. Anyways I'm looking at 2 bikes right now. One is a bianchi nirone 7 I believe 2012 for 750$ the other a 03-04 trek usps model full carbon. I don't know much on it except it has full shimano ultegra components and looks as if it's barely been ridden. Seller is asking 1000$ I've seen them for 200 and up. Can I get some expert opinion thanks guys. ImageUploadedByIH8MUD Forum1394251034.664834.webp ImageUploadedByIH8MUD Forum1394251081.252369.webp ImageUploadedByIH8MUD Forum1394251120.333835.webp ImageUploadedByIH8MUD Forum1394251173.832334.webp


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Thanks I do to. I like the old steel frames. I had aluminum frame last bike it creaked a bit. I'd prefer the newer of the two


ILOVEMUD
 
I would go with the Bianchi if it was carbon...
Aluminum is hard and does a great job at transferring the road bumps to your body.
 
Bianchi is Campagnolo, Trek is Shimano. If that makes any difference also.
 
Thanks guys I like shimano. Yeah my scattante was aluminum and didn't really like the feel of the bike. I'm doing some hunting. I keep going back to old frames new components. What is a good U.S made bike. Is motobecane made in USA?


ILOVEMUD
 
Also I do want a steel frame. Is anybody making a steel frame now a days? Or am I looking at older roadies. I have a Peugeot with some deep v rims and shimano cheap components I could begin fixing up.


ILOVEMUD
 
What type of riding you plan on doing?
For long rides a carbon frame is the ticket.
For short rides around town a retro style SS or fixie would be best
Now you need two rigs..!!
 
I'd prefer longer rides. I had a single speed no fixie and I really enjoyed it. I'd do 14-15 miles a day on. With small hills. It's a great work out for less riding with the single speed. Sounds like I need to lean towards the full carbon trek. Thanks for the help gentlemen


ILOVEMUD
 
Looks like old 9 spd ultegra on the trek. Maybe look for something like ultegra or 105 10 spd
Or if u can score dura ace that would be the best
Look at cannondale caad10 they are cheaper even for newer ones and go for 1 1/8 headtube or tapered 1 1/8 to 1.25. 1" is old and out dated for road
Caad10 rides better than a lot of carbon frames. 25mm tires are also more comfy and don't slow you down they make a big difference
 
Ok thanks I'll look into that. I have wanted a cannondale actually. If I found a good deal on motobecane are they good don't know much about them. I saw a Ridley with 105 crank dura ace components on Craigslist for 400$ seemed to good to be true though


ILOVEMUD
 
Motos are decent bikes but are a french company if I remember correctly. Basically factory direct. For steel you are really going to be looking at older frames or boutique bikes to get something like that as most have moved to other composite materials or aluminum.

I was able to pick up a 2009 Kona Jake for $500 a while back that I love. Still aluminum but for my needs (occasional dirt grinder and daily work commuter) it works just fine. My steel On-One Inbred 29r will be relegated to commuter/monstercross bike if I ever get ride of the Jake.
 
stick with the carbon bikes....for 1200$ u can get a newer used bike with the ultegra. canondale is not a bad bike, but there are many others, scott makes a good bike for the value..its all about fit, comfort and dependability..forget about steel or alum.
 
Thanks I'm gathering carbon will be good. My buddy had a bmc carbon he loves I appreciate all the input. I'll post pics when I get one.


ILOVEMUD
 
I would rather have a CAAD10 than a mid or entry carbon frame. The CAAD10 is one of the best racing framesets out there. It's a better frame than the 6-13 carbon and I'd take it over a lot of carbon bikes.

If you are looking at racing frames, they are all stiff and carbon does not equal comfort.
Don't discount based on material, there are a lot of mediocre carbon frames nowadays. I raced Caad10s for 3 yrs and they are pro-level quality and performers. They used to be handmade in the USA, not sure if they still are.

Motobecane is a Taiwanese brand. They do cheaper, direct marketing mostly. Some good values in there.
The name was bought out a while ago.

The original Motobecane is now MBK. That is the French brand, not sure if it's still around.
They don't sell in the USA.

What you are looking for is
1. fit - proper fit of your body is everything
2. geometry- these two things determine handling, and feel as well as body comfort
3. component quality
4. wheelset quality

check for cracks at the headtube (esp under the downtube/headtube area), bottom bracket area
and play in hte headset/fork

if carbon, make sure the seatmast is not crushed from over tightening (same w/ carbon bars)
 
FWIW, I've now bought 4 motobecane bikes. I've been very happy with all of them. I daily commute on a Motobecane leChamp ti frame. Love it. Build quality is excellent. I've put somewhere in the range of 6,000 miles on it with no issues whatsoever other than wearing out a couple sets of tires.

Frames are frames. They are all made by a few companies. Bikes direct (motobecane) sells Canondale frames under their brand Condor from time to time when there are overstock canondale frames at the factory. The only frame I've ever seen break personally was a Trek Madone.

I can't see any reason to pay $1,000 for a 5-10 year old used bike when you can get a new, full SRAM motobecane for around the same price.

Also FWIW, I switched from Ultegra to SRAM Rival and I'm very happy with the Rival components. The shifting is sharp rather than smooth, but practically never needs any tuning. It hits the right gear every time - no hunting, no skipping, just works.

Good luck.
 
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Thanks guys I needed some education. I didn't like my scattante felt cheap under me. I just like riding I enjoy learning more of the details. I always wanted to take the gears off. But I want to start getting more serious. Thanks again.


ILOVEMUD
 
Just to be practical here...

It doesn't sound like racing is where you're headed, and if you are mostly doing short local rides, you don't need a lot of bike. You liked your fixed gear steel fixie. Dude-go buy a steel fixie. They are cheap, ride great, provide great training and you can cut your budget to $300 or less. I would look for an 80s steel frame with horizontal drop outs and build one up. Trek and a ton of Japanese companies made perfect frames for this for decades and they can be bought for peanuts on Craigs. Heck, I've got a 56 cm modern cheap steel track frame I'll sell you for $100. Comes with most of the parts you'll need for a fixie including cranks and a rear wheel.

If you want to ride seriously, but recreationally, then it's time to spend some $$. A modern good carbon fiber bike with Ultegra or Dura Ace is what you want. Titanium rides really nice too but it will cost you more than your budget.

Race bikes are easier to buy because they are disposable. Any bike you have you're going to ride a year or two anyway and replace. This is where aluminum frames shine.

Most people buy way more bike than they need, because it's easier to buy than to ride. True fact. Look at that Trek. It's an awesome bike, and it's hardly been ridden. If it's your size you should buy it.

I have gone full circle. I don't race anymore, I ride almost every day of my life, and the carbon and aluminum(except 1 mountain bike) bikes are gone. My commute bike is...a steel fixie! I ride it 28 miles every day to and from work. My century bike is a steel custom with Dura Ace. To me as a 30+ year rider, steel feels the best over distance, though I have nearly pulled the trigger on titanium several times but I don't feel worthy of it anymore.

And BTW-lots of great steel frames still being made.

I agree completely that the only thing that matters for the riding you describe is fit. Not weight, not material, not components. If you're riding under 150 miles per week, don't waste a bunch of $$.
 

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