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I'm looking for an HDJ81, considering importing but keeping an eye on the local market, one popped up right down the street so I went and checked it out. I'm used to working on cars, but I know little about these trucks, especially anything to do with diesel engines and turbos.


Here is what my preliminary findings were, just want an opinion on whether it's worth going further with this car.

It's a '92 HDJ81 VX Limited with 210K KM. Factory Front/Rear lockers.


AC "needs a recharge"... So no ac right now and likely the cooling box isn't working either I'd guess, unless that is cooled in another fashion.


Passenger side lock works, but the power actuator must be toast as it doesn't unlock with the central lock anymore. Power windows work, but were slow - he says they are fine in the summer, slow down when cold

Interior was clean and no rips or anything.

I accidentally hit the retract button on the mirrors, it sticks, the things went nuts, had to get a little screwdriver to unstick it. Also passenger side one didn't retract without help.

It's been sitting 6 months, it was bone cold. Started up instantly and purred, no smoke. Recent timing belt, accessory belts and water pump.


The truck ran well, it pulled really well up hills, didn't pull, just a nice ride.

Brakes were weak. I felt they were having a hard time stopping the truck, he said they were done a couple of years ago, so roughly 60K KM. Probably time.

Shifted smooth in drive, smooth to reverse and downshifted well.

rear tail gate was a bit stiff to put up and down - is that normal?

I tested the centre lock and front rear hub locks, they all engaged, but when the front hubs engaged it was as if there was no power steering any more, not sure if that is normal as I've never driving a full locking 4x4, but it was near impossible to turn the wheel.

Engine bay looked as I'd expect for a 20 year old car, no oil under where the car was parked, but oil on the block likely seeping from valve cover on pass side (where oil filter is), also a power steering leak / seepage. There was an oily rag wrapped around what seemed to be electrical wire conduits on the passenger side below where the oil filter is didn't investigate too closely as it was dark and I was in my work clothes. Also seemed to be some oil on what i think is the turbo on the drivers side, not sure though as I don't know enough about the engine.

My next step would be to get an inspection, but wanted to see if anything here screams run away to you folks who know a lot more about these trucks.
 
You didn't mention asking price in your post.
Ask if BEB's have been changed out. If not, be prepared to get your hands a little dirty. It's a prerequisite to do them ASAP. Check around the bottom of the rear window for bubbling in the paint. They like to rust there. Is the suspension original? That's the way they are locked up. Most of the issues you stated are pretty normal and fall in the maintenance category.
 
All the small things sound pretty normal. Powersteering components are known to leak, if you're mechanically inclined fixing them shouldn't be an issue. All the things you mentioned should be easy fixes, but they should definitely detract from the price of the car. Mine had problems with the power windows as well, i found that both the scissor mechanism was gone and the gearing on the motor shot too. The scissor thing was cheap, and the motor an easy fix if you have a lathe... so again, as long as you can fix stuff yourself, you'll be fine :)

The car being unsteerable when fully locked is completely fine, and a good sign that the lockers are engaged. Tip: Don't use the lockers on pavement.

If you're not absolutely sure the PO has had the big end bearings replaced you should do it as soon as the car is in your driveway. It shouldn't take more than a day to do if you're used to wrenching, and the parts are fairly cheap. Again, you should use this in your price negotiations, it's an expensive fix if you take it to a shop.

I don't know about the A/C... i live in a cold country, and tossed mine in favor of an oba set up. The clutchpack on my A/C compressor was messed up beyond repair, and i have seen a few others that have had similar problems, you can try applying 12v to the magnet and seeing if the clutch engages.

I would definitely check out a few more if i were you, just to get a feel for the car, and get sense of what else is on the market.
 
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Thanks for the replies.

Asking price is $11K Cdn.

The new struts are Munroe Struts and are basically brand new. As far as the rest of the suspension goes, I cant really tell not having been around a lot of these cars.

BEBs have not been done. What does a shop charge to do these?

I didn't see any rust along that back window, but maybe i'll try to get over there again today to check in the daylight, it's never the same at night with a flashlight.

I am comfortable wrenching giving a good write up or manual, but I don't have a lot of time to do so, I'll likely pay for some of these repairs and consider it part of the purchase price. Don't mind doing that If I can get a good deal from the current owner.
 
Where are you?

OK You are in the LM

These trucks are very robust and deserve their fine reputation for reliability. They have a few weak points as well.

These trucks are now cheap. Remember when you are repairing them that when they were new they cost over 60K in Japan. They can get costly to 'bring back' to spec. Take it to a competent shop with specific long tenure JDM experience and all the spares on the shelf.

I use ATEB in Burnaby and recommend them highly- they have saved me a lot of grief and money over the years. Pay them a few hours to give you a 'fitness report'. If they tell you to pass you run. And I mean right f'n now. Or- Take the report back to the owner and beat him with it if there issues.

No shop in Western Canada (Canada?) has more experience with HDJs in terms of volume and experience.
 
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thanks, that is my plan, although I was going to go to EBI just due to the logistics of where the truck is currently located.

I think I'm most concerned about the AC, I don't think they recharged it after a small bender last year - bumper was replaced.

Where are you?

OK You are in the LM

These trucks are very robust and deserve their fine reputation for reliability. They have a few weak points as well.

These trucks are now cheap. Remember when you are repairing them that when they were new they cost over 60K in Japan. They can get costly to 'bring back' to spec. Take it to a competent shop with specific long tenure JDM experience and all the spares on the shelf.

I use ATEB in Burnaby and recommend them highly- they have saved me a lot of grief and money over the years. Pay them a few hours to give you a 'fitness report'. If they tell you to pass you run. And I mean right f'n now. Or- Take the report back to the owner and beat him with it if there issues.

No shop in Western Canada (Canada?) has more experience with HDJs in terms of volume and experience.
 
Welcome to MUD! :D

Coastal Cruisers next club meeting is Nov 14 at the Port Moody Legion at 8pm. Why don't you come out and talk to a bunch of '81 owners (there are at least 6 at every meeting). Steve T from EBI is the president of the club.

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Yes, Steve has an excellent reputation on Land Cruisers. John from ATEB is also a club member and a fine mechanic. He may be a bit more up on the HJ81 than Steve. He is well known for his ability to finely tune the engine in the HJ81s.

Sounds like it has a few small issues. The turbo could be a bigger issue. The only way you will know is by getting a full inspection done - including a leak down compression test. You should expect it to cost $300 and up.

I'd use what you know is wrong and what is found in the inspection to negotiate on the price. If the seller does not look like he is ready to negotiate, then you may want to look elsewhere. BEB is a big concern with this engine. IIRC, therre is also something on the injector pump that is highly recommended be removed or it can cause engine failure. Maybe Sailor can remember.

I am presuming that it has new shocks at original ride height. If the springs are sagged (they will be if they are originals) and if you are planning to do a lift, new shocks are not a selling factor - especially stock Monroe shocks.
 
Thanks everyone.

Yes, I think it is the original ride hight, but I'm not really sure. Seems like it is.

I think I'm going to pass on this truck after my discussion with Steve about some of the issues and after subsequent chat with the owner of the vehicle. Just not feeling it. I'll keep looking for something that someone has cared about and for a bit more.
 
Hey John it's the ACSD aka the Assisted (Automatic) Cold Start Devise, when failing it will send metal shards trough your pump which is no goodie
 

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