I have the older ARB and live in Baltimore. We may be able to connect.
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I have the older ARB and live in Baltimore. We may be able to connect.
yes it would work, but exactly backwards from what you said.
So back to your original questionAre these recovery brackets (per spressomon's design) compatible with 03+ ARB bumpers without any additional mod/milling?
The 98-02 would be Sincity100s, and the 03+ bar would be mine
Both mounted on 2000MY vehicles.yes it would work, but exactly backwards from what you said.
The 98-02 would be Sincity100s, and the 03+ bar would be mine
Thanks for clarifying. Can you confirm the dimension of the milled out portion?
From looking at mthomp6's picture https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series...recovery-bracket-group-buy-4.html#post2797423 I enlarged the image to the point where the bracket was 6.5" and measured the milled out section to be ~.5" down and ~3/4" across but if you or someone else is able to confirm that'd be great.
If anyone's interested in ordering let me know.
I am, but need to know if I will have to cut my ARB for them to fit...are they the same dimensions as the first set?
I'm in for one.
I am using spressomon's CAD diagram here (https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series...-front-frame-recovery-bracket.html#post885555) which were also used for the first set, right? If so then these should match the dimensions of the first set (big picture the max Length is 6.5", max height is 3.375", width is 1").
2000UZJ - based on what I saw from the previous posts on the ARB topic, I thought just the bracket itself needs to be milled out a tad not to interfere with one of the ARB bolts. But it didn't sound or look like the ARB bumper itself needed to be cut/modified. Can you clarify what needs to be cut on the ARB to fit with the brackets?
Look at post #277 (2nd picture) there is a section of the ARB that has been notched to allow access to the holes to insert the d-shackle. This only affects the 03+ Bars. Spresso had been working on a newer recovery bracket that I thought would eliminate the need to create this notch. I think that is why all the questions about these brackets and the 03+ bumper. At least for me.
Makes sense now. We could keep this as simple as the first batch.
Alternatively (or in addition), if anyone could confirm dimensions or a vehicle with 03+ ARB to test on, I think it would be pretty easy to modify the bracket to work without having to mod the ARB itself. If you look at the original CAD from Spressomon (https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series...-front-frame-recovery-bracket.html#post885555) it has the 1 inch diameter hole's center starting at 2.375" down and total height being 3.375". If all people need is an extra 1/8 or 1/4 or 1/2" of clearance, we could modify it to have the 1" diameter hole's center starting that much lower and increase the overall height by the same amount. I can mock it up and post if there is interest in this change.
If Spressomon has an updated CAD we could use that too.
I was considering trying to come up with a design that would be more compatible with OEM bumpers by bringing the D ring down further away from the frame (less likely for bumper to get in the way of a strap) but I haven't done any measurements to see how much more clearance we'd need. Anyhow without modifying from the CAD I already have, turnaround will be quicker. If enough people want to look into a mod for easier/quicker ARB 03+ compatibility we can go that route too.
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trimming out the bumper is easier. We have how many people running the original design FRB with zero failures so far? Why go and change a design that works? So what if you have to notch out a tiny bit of the bumper.
By the way, I hit those brackets on rocks as it is. Any lower will just further reduce clearance.
Let me get this straight... milling a structural piece of steel that you are relying on to absorb the forces required to get a 100 series un-stuck seems easier to you than notching a piece of sheet steel that is not structural?
Or are you intending to add material to the frame recovery bracket which would make it an even lower point (by an inch?) hanging down below the front of a vehicle that is stuck and now you have something else to dig a hole to access (or which digs itself in)?
Your idea makes no sense when considered rationally. You're overthinking, overcomplicating, and worsening a simple and effective design.
Why?
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x2... and the part that needs to be notched on the '03+ ARB seems to serve no other purpose than to protect the bumper's mounting bolts. When installed, the FRB will now protect the bolts.
The board has spoken - I'll keep it simple.
(As far as being irrational - that 's a little harsh. It is easy for me to update a CAD diagram for someone else to cut to my spec, the overhang would only be as low as needed which for all I know is as little as 1/8", 1/4" or maybe 1/2" total, and someone had mentioned that Spressomon was already working on a different version of the bracket. But no worries - if people like the old design we can keep it.)
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this is what I am refering to
98-02 bar
03+ ARB
I am confused as to whether this new (spresso design) will fit on my 98 cruiser with the ARB sahara bar. I had the original Calmaridog brackets and they would not fit due to the bolt shown in the top picture in front of the stock bracket.
So has this newest version been re-designed to work with that bolt?
Has anyone used these FRBs on the rear stock bumper (in place of the OEM hook)? Mine fits fine up front but doesn't fit in the rear - a piece of the bumper reinforcement gets in the way. I confirmed that my FRB matches the specs from the original but it doesn't fit - looks like the bolt holes need to be shifted closer to the chunk that hangs down or like the shape needs to change (the center of the hole for the d shackle pin is 1 inch from one side and 1.25 inches from the part that is colliding with the bumper steel - if it were 1 inch center to edge both ways I don't think this would be an issue).
Has anyone used these successfully with a stock bumper in the rear?
Has anyone used these successfully with a stock bumper in the rear?
Trim the bumper support?
Ill take a set.Let me know what to do...
