There is a black 570 at my work. They don't seem to wash it often and when they do they must take it to a auto wash, because it's covered with swirls. Obviously, those can be avoided with proper washing technique, but when they show they REALLY show on a black vehicle. It looks horrible.
For those who have one...Any buyers remorse with choosing BLACK
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Uhhh... no. I had a black car in 1984. Never again. IMFG it was a PITA to keep looking clean.
I do the same. I have the Harbor Freight DA and it works great. Had my '11 in for service and the service manager couldn't believe how great my paint looked. A DA correction takes a couple hours, and I do it 1 to 2 times a year. I do use a leaf blower to dry and don't rub the paint. Black does take more work, but man, it looks good.
This was my solution for swirls in a black paint job. Easy learning curve.
Wow, had no idea. Thanks for the info. Crazy that on a $80k vehicle you don't get a clear coat. Seems like these would be great candidates for ceramic coating.
This was my solution for swirls in a black paint job. Easy learning curve.
Now that's what I call a real man cave!
Taco2Cruiser
Crazy American Off Road
I'm probably not helping the conversation with this, but I've only owned black 4x4s. So I think they are great. I've lived in Florida and El Paso and so maybe I'm just used to the heat. Line-X has helped a lot through.
MrCWineMan
SILVER Star
My 200 is my third black car, so far so good. Just don’t take it to touch washes, use good wax, and it’s easy. Now that you mention it I could use a car wash.
I debated hard between black and grey when searching for my 200, and ultimately went with black - due in part to the higher availability as the OP mentioned. My old 3rd gen 4runner was black, so I knew what I was getting myself into. For a car that only had 15k miles there were more paint swirls that I expected, however half a weekend with my random orbital polisher and a Chemical Guys arsenal had it looking brand new!
My wife has a grey X5 and I've also got an antique sage pearl 80 series. There is no question those two cars are easier to clean and hide dirt better, there is also no question my black 200 looks much sharper when washed. I am able to keep my vehicles in a garage, which certainly helps with paint care and maintaining the look after washing - especially with the black 200.
At the end of the day I think it comes down to personal preference and your enjoyment of maintaining your auto paint - black really isn't too bad with the right supplies and a little elbow grease.
My wife has a grey X5 and I've also got an antique sage pearl 80 series. There is no question those two cars are easier to clean and hide dirt better, there is also no question my black 200 looks much sharper when washed. I am able to keep my vehicles in a garage, which certainly helps with paint care and maintaining the look after washing - especially with the black 200.
At the end of the day I think it comes down to personal preference and your enjoyment of maintaining your auto paint - black really isn't too bad with the right supplies and a little elbow grease.
FatHero
GOLD Star
My silver 2008 200 and my black 2000 100. Had the 200 for 7 years now, and the 100 for about 14 years. Here in San Antonio it's hotter than 2 squirrels screwing under a wool blanket for several months a year. Temp will exceed 100 ℉ quite often. I honestly can't tell a difference as far as heat is concerned when I get inside after parking in the sun. Maybe the tan interior of the 100 is a help versus the dark gray of the 200.
Like most of you fellas - I think nothing beats the look of black when it's clean, it's just hard to keep clean in this dusty environment here. Although I'm not as picky about keeping my rigs clean as I once was, I've gotten to where I appreciate the silver and other low maintenance colors.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my own opinion is that black won't make much difference as far as hot climate. In Texas and other hot climates - you're just gonna melt no matter what.
However, scratches and dings will certainly show up much easier on black. So if you're going to get some trail pinstripes and you don't want them to be noticeable - black might not be for you.
Like most of you fellas - I think nothing beats the look of black when it's clean, it's just hard to keep clean in this dusty environment here. Although I'm not as picky about keeping my rigs clean as I once was, I've gotten to where I appreciate the silver and other low maintenance colors.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my own opinion is that black won't make much difference as far as hot climate. In Texas and other hot climates - you're just gonna melt no matter what.
However, scratches and dings will certainly show up much easier on black. So if you're going to get some trail pinstripes and you don't want them to be noticeable - black might not be for you.
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That's a great looking pair of Cruisers! My sister has a black 100, if she ever wants to get rid of it I might have to take it off her hands!
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That's a great looking pair of Cruisers! My sister has a black 100, if she ever wants to get rid of it I might have to take it off her hands!
No black exterior for me, ever, so no remorse. Although the Brandywine Mica is nice, even that is hard to keep clean. My real color gripe is the the interior. I really wish the '17 interior had come with almost any color but almost solid black for the dash and floor, and console, and etc. The flat black everywhere really shows dirt and dust and sand so it's silly hard to keep clean. It would have been so nice to have continued the Terra up onto the "leather" areas of the dash. At least the Terra seats offer some relief from the sea of black.
iptman
SILVER Star
This is not accurate, regarding 80 series at least. The black was certainly clear coated and non metallic. I'm fairly sure the only 80 series that didn't have a clear coat was white. There's also a big difference between 80 series white and 100/200 series white which I'm guessing is the clear coat on the latter.
I had a black '99 LC - the color was the only thing I hated about the vehicle. If you even go near dirt, it looks awful. It shows scratches and dents much more than other colors. It gets much hotter when parked out in the sun. It does look great when you wash/wax it, but the level of effort required to maintain this look is beyond my willingness to detail daily. FYI: My new 2017 LC is white.
I have owned a lot of black vehicles over the years, I generally always choose either black or white.
I had a Black LX and it was the last black vehicle I owned, and it took about a month to remember why I had pretty much quit buying black trucks.
Nothing loooks as good as clean black vehicle. But that said I rarely drove the LX because it was black and I hated getting it dirty. Lol
It was a garage queen. So when I found another low mileage/like new Super white LC, I just had to jump ship from the black LX.
Now days with most manufactures Toyota included , no longer seem to be offering pure gloss black, or a pure bright gloss white, everything high end seems to have to come metallic black or metallic white. To me metallic flake in black paint just makes them look dull or dusty, and metallic in white seems to change color a lot depending on the lighting it's in i.e.(sundown looks sort of tan or off white).
So now days when I have to go with metallic paint, I am leaning towards silver and greys.
I had a Black LX and it was the last black vehicle I owned, and it took about a month to remember why I had pretty much quit buying black trucks.
Nothing loooks as good as clean black vehicle. But that said I rarely drove the LX because it was black and I hated getting it dirty. Lol
It was a garage queen. So when I found another low mileage/like new Super white LC, I just had to jump ship from the black LX.
Now days with most manufactures Toyota included , no longer seem to be offering pure gloss black, or a pure bright gloss white, everything high end seems to have to come metallic black or metallic white. To me metallic flake in black paint just makes them look dull or dusty, and metallic in white seems to change color a lot depending on the lighting it's in i.e.(sundown looks sort of tan or off white).
So now days when I have to go with metallic paint, I am leaning towards silver and greys.
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It is accurate, its been confirmed with Toyota. Black (202) does not have a clear coat applied over the paint. They say it is "mixed in" the paint itself. So, when it scratches, you can cut it and buff it and it will look new. Thats the same black they used on the 80, 100 and 200 all the way up through 2015, they finally changed to a metallic black/ clear for 2016. None of the whites on any Land Cruiser have a clear coat until 2013 when they finally went to metallic/clear, the Blizzard Pearl Metallic.
None from me. You could always wrap it too...
Since I'm perusing the 200 section, I thought I'd chime in.
I wouldn't let exterior color keep you from buying a Cruiser that otherwise checks all the boxes. Black wasn't my first choice, but it was the right year, configured exactly how I wanted it, and in great condition. Because of that, I jumped on it and have had no regrets. I'm in the Midwest and park in a garage at work and home so heat hasn't been a factor.
It does take a little more work to care for a black car, but I simply wash it by hand and machine polish once a year and that keeps the swirl marks in check. I would argue that they look pretty good when dirty too. Good luck with the search.
Cheers my 200 peeps.
I wouldn't let exterior color keep you from buying a Cruiser that otherwise checks all the boxes. Black wasn't my first choice, but it was the right year, configured exactly how I wanted it, and in great condition. Because of that, I jumped on it and have had no regrets. I'm in the Midwest and park in a garage at work and home so heat hasn't been a factor.
It does take a little more work to care for a black car, but I simply wash it by hand and machine polish once a year and that keeps the swirl marks in check. I would argue that they look pretty good when dirty too. Good luck with the search.
Cheers my 200 peeps.
I am driving 2015 black LC, coated it with opti coat pro plus and have no issues or remorse. Live in California and it gets pretty hot (2 weeks ago it was 120 degrees) here and my LC is constantly under the sun when I am at work or home. Maybe it is paint or coating, but it is not getting crazy hot inside, etc... I would suggest detailing it and coating if you are too get a black one. To conclude-no remorse.
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