fj62 tranny cooler into a fj60 power steering cooler

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I have a radiator from a FJ62 that I am planning on putting into my 60. The 62 radiator has a tranny cooler built into the radiator. Since I dont have an automatic tranny that needs cooling, I was thinking of using the tranny cooler as a power steering cooler.

Does anyone know the range of temperatures that the power steering system runs at? If the fluid comes out of the steering box at less than the coolant temp I would be making a PS heater instead of a cooler.
 
the low pressure line has a cooling loop in it that runs right under the radiator, so I know it needs some kind of cooling.

I am not having a problem, but it would be cool to find a use for the unused tranny cooler. I have seen aftermarket PS coolers, so I guess some people have a use for them...
 
the low pressure line has a cooling loop in it that runs right under the radiator, so I know it needs some kind of cooling.

I am not having a problem, but it would be cool to find a use for the unused tranny cooler. I have seen aftermarket PS coolers, so I guess some people have a use for them...

What about a water heater...for a shower?

(outside the box)
 
Here's what I was told when I ran it by my local club:

"The tranny cooler integral with his radiator. it uses the engine coolant to 'cool' the tranny fluid. This works for OEM vehicles because the tranny will overheat when worked too much as in big hills or towing unless there is a way to dissapate the heat. Running it through the rad where temps are around 190-200 or so is OK since the tranny will be just fine in temps about 200 to 250. Even running through a 200 degree radiator, it is still cooling even if slightly.

P/S on the other hand runs a lot cooler and is not designed to handle the temps or pressures that an auto trans can. A typical P/S system will not reach 200 degrees unless it is affected by a close proximity to the engine or exhaust. My point is that unless you have a P/S system that runs over 190 degrees or so, running it through the radiator will not cool it, it will only heat it when the demand on the P/S system is light and the engine is at normal operating temp.

Your rig does not sound like it has a "typical" P/S system. However, I would still not recomend running the P/S fluid through the rad. Big tires, low pressures, wheelin.... yeah I would definately recomend a fin style remote tranny cooler for you since it is completely seperate from the cooling system.

The reason these things fail (in general) is because of heat. It breaks down the viscosity of the fluid and you end up with an oil that has the viscosity of water. It will leak through all your seals and at that point, you've lost all the hydraulic principles of the oil which made it work in the first place. I use type 'F' tranny fluid in my P/S system. I believe that it has a higher temp threshold than normal P/S fluid and it carries the same hydraulic principles."
 
Here's what I was told when I ran it by my local club:

"The tranny cooler integral with his radiator. it uses the engine coolant to 'cool' the tranny fluid. This works for OEM vehicles because the tranny will overheat when worked too much as in big hills or towing unless there is a way to dissapate the heat. Running it through the rad where temps are around 190-200 or so is OK since the tranny will be just fine in temps about 200 to 250. Even running through a 200 degree radiator, it is still cooling even if slightly.

P/S on the other hand runs a lot cooler and is not designed to handle the temps or pressures that an auto trans can. A typical P/S system will not reach 200 degrees unless it is affected by a close proximity to the engine or exhaust. My point is that unless you have a P/S system that runs over 190 degrees or so, running it through the radiator will not cool it, it will only heat it when the demand on the P/S system is light and the engine is at normal operating temp.

Your rig does not sound like it has a "typical" P/S system. However, I would still not recomend running the P/S fluid through the rad. Big tires, low pressures, wheelin.... yeah I would definately recomend a fin style remote tranny cooler for you since it is completely seperate from the cooling system.

The reason these things fail (in general) is because of heat. It breaks down the viscosity of the fluid and you end up with an oil that has the viscosity of water. It will leak through all your seals and at that point, you've lost all the hydraulic principles of the oil which made it work in the first place. I use type 'F' tranny fluid in my P/S system. I believe that it has a higher temp threshold than normal P/S fluid and it carries the same hydraulic principles."



Thanks-

I had assumed the temps were higher in rad than the ps pump..........
 
cooler will prevent fluid boil over

I am also working on installing a power steering cooler. I saw one on a sixty two the other day and wondered if it was really necessary. A couple days later I drove my sixty on a pretty demanding stretch of trail my power steering fluid reservoir boiled over. I am going to put in a cooler tomorrow. I don't have trail size tires yet, currently running 245x75x15s on stock wheels, going to 33x10.50x15s on 8x15 wheels, at that time I am confidant I will be glad I installed the power steering cooler.
 
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If you did plumb the P/S fluid through the cooler in the radiator...you certainly would want to use the low pressure side. I don't know what temps the p/s fluid runs at (on the pressure side) but I would expect it to the hot. They do make aftermarket P/S fluid coolers and even some of the OEM/s have P/S coolers ie GM does on some trucks. I think I've seen them on Fords too. I have an aftermarket P/S cooler plumbed in on my P/S... as the power steering pump gets a work out especially off-road.

These coolers are not expensive...you might want to look for that....before investing a lot of effort trying to plumb the radiator.

I run a GM 5.7 along with the matching GM p/s pump ...FYI for those who may not catch that in the sig line
 
I used this cooler I removed from a 1989 FJ62 I assume it was a transmission cooler. Do you think it will work?
 
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I used this cooler I removed from a 1989 FJ62 I assume it was a transmission cooler. Do you think it will work?


Wow-Overkill but will work fine. That looks like a really nice tranny cooler. Mine did not have one of those.

There are a couple of B&M AT coolers that are small and compact-perfect for PS coolers.
 
how much more fluid do you think this might need it's 11' X 11.5" X 1" will there be any problem drawing fluid through this stack style unit as apposed to tube and fin?
 
Double over kill

Wow-Overkill but will work fine. That looks like a really nice tranny cooler. Mine did not have one of those.

There are a couple of B&M AT coolers that are small and compact-perfect for PS coolers.

I am really going overboard I plan to install a cooling fan on the cooler to further the cooling. Right now the cooler is zip did to the inside of the grill. I will add a cooling fan to the back side of the cooler and pull air through it.
 
err, before you add a cooler, add a gauge.

There are tees that will splice into the low pressure side and let you
put a sender in there. Then you'll know for sure.
If it goes over the recommended temp for the fluid,

THEN

you add a cooler.

The number of times people go to insane measures to add coolers
to fix problems that aren't there- or aren't temp related- just boggles me.

I have temp senders in the diffs I race with, the transmissions, the oil, etc...
... and I added an oil cooler only to cool the engine oil. It was actually getting too hot.
Everything else was- and is- fine.

That's what I do, anyway....

t
 
This is what I used for diesel swaps PS oil cooler. Welded a couple of brackets and used rubber mounts. The cooler was around $50.00, and the lines had to made anyway.

Also make sure you run the cooler on the return (low pressure) side of the pump. I'm not sure of the 60 PS pumps, but the Isuzu diesel PS pump pressure is 1100 psi!

Just an idea for you.

Doug
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I have a similar cooler as the post above...in front of my radiator, near the top of the passenger side.

4*4 vehicles really give the P/s a workout, espically with larger tires. there are coolers in teh junkyards...of some of the GM 3/4 and 1 ton trucks and other model vehicles that would nto be that hard to adapt.
 
This is what I used for diesel swaps PS oil cooler. Welded a couple of brackets and used rubber mounts. The cooler was around $50.00, and the lines had to made anyway.

Also make sure you run the cooler on the return (low pressure) side of the pump. I'm not sure of the 60 PS pumps, but the Isuzu diesel PS pump pressure is 1100 psi!

Just an idea for you.

Doug

Do you have issues with the coolder getting clogged with mud?
 
No mud issues to date as the cooler is protected by the stock lower splash guards under the radiator and belts.

Doug
 
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