FJ45 Springs
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Are you trying to get more lift ? From the pics it looks like it sits well.
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Just a little
Have purchased from both. Don't waste your time and money with Deaver. Go first class with Alcan. A much better product.
Some places will force you to ship the OME rear springs for the 45 series via truck freight. Kurt @ Cruiser Outfitters will ship them UPS.
Do a search on Alcan. Their customer service sucks and their measurements are wrong for the 45. Check page 5 of the link in my signature, I purchased a set from them and they didn't bolt up. First Charles tried to say my spring hangars were off. I showed him documentation that he was wrong. He then said for me to send them back and he would make me a new main leaf. All he did was de-arch them so they would fit which took out the amount of lift I wanted. I wouldn't have wasted the $75 it cost to ship them back had I known he wasn't going to follow through with what he said to do. They are NOT first class by any means.
I have since ordered OME from Kurt.
Is Curt at Cruiser Outfitters the best bet for OME springs for the 45? I'd like to get a new set.
Thanks,
Eddie
Thanks,
Eddie
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Shop around...find your best price..then tell and buy from Kurt....hes a great guy to do buisness with
Shop around...find your best price..then tell and buy from Kurt....hes a great guy to do buisness with
Interesting. I have had exactly the opposite experience with my Alcans.
I purchased mine prolly 5 years ago now, didn't do anywhere near enough homework on spec-ing them before ordering [I admit I was lazy and just told them to duplicate what they made for 65fj45] and have been nothing but pleased with them.
I have whupped them over and over again on the trails, rode them for hundreds of miles on the bumpstops carrying ridiculous loads of cruiser parts around the country, and they have always come back to the original specs.
I had an issue with the front pair I ordered for 45Dude's lwb and Tom was a total gentleman to deal with, sent call tags for the springs, and sent another pair out a few weeks later.
What 45Dude and I have subsequently learned, and what may actually be relevant to the issue you had, is that he also piggy-backed his order specs off Mike G's 45, like I did, and has ended up with springs that are short and stiff....FOR HIS RIG. I have little doubt they would be adequate in length and flexibility ON MY RIG, which has at least 400# more weight on it.
This is not Alcan's fault. Mike P. and I are still discussing options for remedying this issue.
I think Alcan is a good company and makes a good product. I do not think they are perfect, but I have a hard time believing with the amount of experience they have building 45 springs [I also got Ghetto Fireman a set for his bad-ass lwb] that Alcan would have made a mistake as bad as you've represented and not done more to rectify it.
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Mark A.
Well when I contacted Charles and told him that I couldn't even bolt them up he told me that he would make me a new main leaf. I provided weights and asked them if they needed measurement and they said no need. I called them directly to make sure the had everything needed. When I sent them back I provided all measurements and even a part of a fsm showing that his measurements were wrong and he still didn't believe me. I paid $75 to ship them back and all he did was flatten the springs. It was a total waste of my time and money. This was just a way to get them to bolt up and he lied to me so I was upset and rightfully so after paying over $1000 to get something not up to par. I would not recommend any due business with them as they didn't stand behind their product.
If you feel like taking a $1000+ gamble then by all means try Alcan. I just don't want someone to make the same expensive mistake I did. Anyone thinking about ordering from them do s search to see the problem others have had. There are others that have had problems with their product and customer service.
Read grease cruisers thread as he had the same issue. The only difference was that he was close enough to go in and demand his money back. After I first posted I had trouble I had two other people pm me about the legnth issues they also had and the customer service problems I had.
I know that if you order a product from Kurt from Cruiser Outfitters he will stand behind his stuff.and go out of his way to make it right.
If you feel like taking a $1000+ gamble then by all means try Alcan. I just don't want someone to make the same expensive mistake I did. Anyone thinking about ordering from them do s search to see the problem others have had. There are others that have had problems with their product and customer service.
Read grease cruisers thread as he had the same issue. The only difference was that he was close enough to go in and demand his money back. After I first posted I had trouble I had two other people pm me about the legnth issues they also had and the customer service problems I had.
I know that if you order a product from Kurt from Cruiser Outfitters he will stand behind his stuff.and go out of his way to make it right.
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I'm in the same quandry. I've spoken to Kurt a number of times, but worry about the overall lift. I'd eventually like to run 35's on the truck and feel that the OME's just won't do the job. The truck (67lwb) currently has CanadaSprings installed with large shackles in the neighborhood of 5-6 inches.
Dunno what to do....??
Dunno what to do....??
The OME kits are designed to be bolt-on with no other suspension or steering changes required. I think 33s are about the max you can run with OME springs without making shackle changes.
You might run into problems though with the OME springs for the 45 series. OME has their own shackles for these springs that might not match the stock spring eye sizes. OME 45 series springs for older applications use the later style/larger spring eye sizes and bushings. So you would end up needing to fabricate custom shackles to use these springs.
You might run into problems though with the OME springs for the 45 series. OME has their own shackles for these springs that might not match the stock spring eye sizes. OME 45 series springs for older applications use the later style/larger spring eye sizes and bushings. So you would end up needing to fabricate custom shackles to use these springs.
I am running some old man emus on my 45 and have 33s but I don.t think you could run anything much bigger but it sits really nice
I have been on the line several times and once you want to go past 2.5 inches of lift you have to pick a custom spring. Sad to say but when going this option I went with the company with the fewer negative feedback---wish one had only positive feedback---but not the case when dealing with 45's. Deaver seemed to come on top and so far have been easy to work with even with some strange request on my part:
These springs are for an FJ45 project with an estimated 7000 LBS finish weight.
These springs are for an FJ45 project with an estimated 7000 LBS finish weight.
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X2, I'm having the same problem with Alcan. If my problem is not resolved soon, I'll start a new thread regarding their customer service with pictures and emails.
Buyer beware...
Buyer beware...
I changed out my Alcan's (front and rear) for Ironman 4x4s supplied by Mark's Off Road. I am very, very happy with the ride quality and overall appearance.
Mark A and I are pretty sure the Alcan's first installed were just not the right configuration for my truck with the weight in my bed (just a spare tire), but this was not Alcan's issue...more that we piggy backed the specs on my order that were drafted for a truck with more weight. I have seen the Alcan's in Mark's truck handle absurd loads and they rock.
All that said, I love my Ironmans. I ended up pulling a leaf or two out to make it just right.
Mark A and I are pretty sure the Alcan's first installed were just not the right configuration for my truck with the weight in my bed (just a spare tire), but this was not Alcan's issue...more that we piggy backed the specs on my order that were drafted for a truck with more weight. I have seen the Alcan's in Mark's truck handle absurd loads and they rock.
All that said, I love my Ironmans. I ended up pulling a leaf or two out to make it just right.
I have heard enough mixed reviews of Alcan that I worked with Deaver for some custom springs for my troopy a couple years ago. They first suggested I go with Alcan because they had never done 45 springs and didn't have specs for them, but I got them the info and they were very responsive and helpful as I tried to figure out what I wanted. I was about to pull the trigger on the order and canceled because I ended up making some significant changes to my rig and wanted to wait and reweigh it. I never got that far again, but I will call them back if I do.
Meanwhile, I put OME from Kurt on another troopy and I can't say I was very impressed with it. I kept stock shackles and only got 1/2" of lift in the front and IIRC 2" in the rear. The ride (with mediums) was considerably stiffer than the stock springs, and it didn't bottom out as quickly. I felt the shackle angles were too steep and I was really disappointed about no lift up front. I emailed ARB about my disappointment and they didn't even reply. Kurt was and always has been awesome to deal with, though.
Meanwhile, I put OME from Kurt on another troopy and I can't say I was very impressed with it. I kept stock shackles and only got 1/2" of lift in the front and IIRC 2" in the rear. The ride (with mediums) was considerably stiffer than the stock springs, and it didn't bottom out as quickly. I felt the shackle angles were too steep and I was really disappointed about no lift up front. I emailed ARB about my disappointment and they didn't even reply. Kurt was and always has been awesome to deal with, though.