Hi Everyone,
First off thank you in advance for any and all the advice or heckling LOL. Comment wherever you'd like!
The GOAL - running resto-mod, disc brakes all around plus a drivetrain so I can go over 55 mph. Let me know if you want me to video all the work (youtube). No not a trained mechanic or welder but can turn a wrench for sure probably better "project wrong way".
I just bought a FJ40 1978 chassis (non-rolling) sand blasted and primed right now. Congrats to me!!!! LOL. This chassis needs some work the 30,000 foot view see below. Wondering if you guys had advice, issues, or dreams of a better setup axle/diff/leaf spring wise? What should I do given the below? Trying to get her to a rolling chassis setup at the moment.
Chassis - current replacement parts needed (not yet on order)
Front bumper gussets (trail-tailor or cheaper @ Mr. Landcruiser minus the shipping)
Front Cross member - Mr. landcruiser
Front and Rear Spring Perch - BTB guys
12inches onward at the rear of the C-Channel including rear cross - member
Rear Cross member
Used Axle setup (my current options)??
* I plan to do hub rebuild plus disc conversion where needed (might do 30 spline where needed and upgrade gear ratios where needed)
FJ55 Axles/diffs front and rear complete ($275)(which according to the Man-a-FE/BTB guys are the exact swap to the 40
FJ60 Axles/diffs front and rear complete ($550) to swap everything out at the hub/knuckle mainly because disc brakes.
FJ80 Axles ($750)
Leaf Springs and Shackles (planned on all NEW here)
Drivertrain options (remember I have nothing so far) *thou seen a 2f in a salvage near me for way more money than I am willing to spend
All the Best Matt
Extra info for the boys!!!!
Chat GPT spits outs all this info if you ask it the right questions (maybe some of you would find this as a helpful)
First off thank you in advance for any and all the advice or heckling LOL. Comment wherever you'd like!
The GOAL - running resto-mod, disc brakes all around plus a drivetrain so I can go over 55 mph. Let me know if you want me to video all the work (youtube). No not a trained mechanic or welder but can turn a wrench for sure probably better "project wrong way".
I just bought a FJ40 1978 chassis (non-rolling) sand blasted and primed right now. Congrats to me!!!! LOL. This chassis needs some work the 30,000 foot view see below. Wondering if you guys had advice, issues, or dreams of a better setup axle/diff/leaf spring wise? What should I do given the below? Trying to get her to a rolling chassis setup at the moment.
Chassis - current replacement parts needed (not yet on order)
Front bumper gussets (trail-tailor or cheaper @ Mr. Landcruiser minus the shipping)
Front Cross member - Mr. landcruiser
Front and Rear Spring Perch - BTB guys
12inches onward at the rear of the C-Channel including rear cross - member
Rear Cross member
* all parts plus the welding is likely going to put me out $1000-$1500 ugh!
Used Axle setup (my current options)??
* I plan to do hub rebuild plus disc conversion where needed (might do 30 spline where needed and upgrade gear ratios where needed)
FJ55 Axles/diffs front and rear complete ($275)(which according to the Man-a-FE/BTB guys are the exact swap to the 40
* assuming this will be the easier setup considering not having to buy and weld spring perches for the
- Do disc brake conversion kit all 4 corners?
- Swap the hubs for the FJ60s below and have at least the front disc brakes from the 60
- I heard I could also do a direct diff swap here as well (not totally sure??)
- Straight swap the 60 series and forget about the FJ55s? *assuming more welding work but I get disc brake fronts already done.
- Considering I am already going to have to weld in new spring perches, yet this forum is filled will shotty advice and pics for this conversion on the spring placement (seems hard and unusual if you ask me)
- If I go this route are there any other parts you think I should grab from the donor vehicle?
- Who would advice against this given your experience?
- Same as above but assuming the welding is much harder than the fj60 and don't see many kits for this swap meaning it would be piecemealed together ie. spring perches/mounts
- I get Disc brakes all around (That's some savings right there)
- Assuming most will say if I don't plan on wheeling it then don't bother, right.
Leaf Springs and Shackles (planned on all NEW here)
OME - every says its the best (Any opinions on lift options here)
Dobinson - Next on list as its cheaper but also good reco
Bilstein Shocks with aftermarket Springs
Drivertrain options (remember I have nothing so far) *thou seen a 2f in a salvage near me for way more money than I am willing to spend
LS1 w/auto transmission - seems like less work with available parts
?? - 5.3L or 6.0 any suggestions here
2F w/5speed - unfortunately this option requires a ton of rebuild or expensive reman engine
Any advice here or scrap that idea?
Any other toyota engine swaps suggestions that have mounting kits?
All the Best Matt
Extra info for the boys!!!!
Chat GPT spits outs all this info if you ask it the right questions (maybe some of you would find this as a helpful)
Diffrential | Width (WMS to WMS) | Front Spline Count | Rear Spline Count | Axle Diameter (in) | Front Brakes | Rear Brakes |
Stock FJ40 | 55 inches | 27 | 30 | 1.31 | Disc (after 1976) | Drum |
FJ60/FJ62 | 58 inches | 27 | 30 | 1.31 | Disc | Drum |
FJ80/FZJ80 | 63 inches | 30 | 30 | 1.31 | Disc | Disc |
9.5-Inch Full-Float (HJ60/61) | 58 inches | 30 | 30 | 1.31 | Disc | Drum |
Pickup/4Runner (8-Inch) | 55–58 inches | 27 | 30 | 1.31 | Disc | Drum |
Ford 9-Inch | 58–61 inches | Varies | Varies | Varies | Varies | Varies |
Dana 60 | 62–65 inches | Varies | Varies | Varies | Varies | Varies |
GM 14-Bolt | 63–67 inches | Varies | Varies | Varies | Varies | Varies |
80-Series Factory Locker | 63 inches | 30 | 30 | 1.31 | Disc | Disc |
GX470 (Front) | 63 inches | 30 | N/A | 1.31 | Disc | N/A |
GX470 (Rear) | 63 inches | N/A | 30 | 1.31 | N/A | Disc |
Differential | Width (WMS to WMS) | Notes |
---|---|---|
Stock FJ40 Rear Differential | 55 inches | Compact, good for stock setups or light off-roading. |
FJ60/FJ62 Rear Differential | 58 inches | Slightly wider, offering better stability. Easy bolt-on upgrade. |
FJ80/FZJ80 Rear Differential | 63 inches | Much wider, great for off-road or lifted setups. Requires body mods. |
Pickup/4Runner 8-Inch | 55–58 inches | Early models match FJ40; later models slightly wider. |
9.5-Inch Full-Floating Axle | 58 inches | Heavy-duty, matches FJ60 width. |
Ford 9-Inch | 58–61 inches | Versatile width, depends on donor vehicle. |
Dana 60 | 62–65 inches | Strong but wide; great for extreme off-road builds. |
GM 14-Bolt | 63–67 inches | Extremely wide; suitable for heavy-duty off-road use. |
80-Series Locker | 63 inches | Excellent for stability; often chosen for larger tire setups. |