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[highonpottery]

^that's hands-down my absolute dream vehicle - those and the 70-series cruisers that we don't get in the USA

I was out looking at new Toyotas last month when we bought a new Prius for the - the quad cab tacomas and new 4runners are pretty nice for what they are. theyr'e no cruiser, but almost the same size, price tag is much less, use less gas. Tundra is also a very nice rig, but again no Cruiser.

If it still ran, i'd probably keep the 470 and make it a wheeler, then pick up something else for DD, perhaps a 4runner or quad-cab Tacoma.

 

[KIRUXA]

Actually to really make you drool. You can go window shopping to toyota website in Australia where you can get brand new 70 series in various models and variations. Now that's a vehicle! Too bad it had to be 15 years old to import into canada. I don't know how the states are.

 

[El Cid]

I would bump up to the 200 series.

The 3/4 critical things for me:

Durability-Dependability-Quality
Functional and comfortable for hauling 4-5 people.
Safety
Simplicity in Design and ability to modify.


The Mercedes has build quality and performance, but not a reputation for quality. Repair work is expensive. And I would be nervous after 100k.
Same with the Rover. Electrical nightmares and questionable quality.

The Mercedes is a potentially great car. Get me a large number of owners going off-road on trips that test the vehicle and I might change my mind, but right now, the Mercedes buyer is a luxury buyer, and I don't have confidence that the vehicle can handle the beating I will deliver..

 

[KlausVanWinkle]

I woudo say it depends what you're using it for. I looked at new JKURs, G500s, tacomas etc. LR4 if going off road isn't as high of a priority.

I would bump up to the 200 series. The 3/4 critical things for me: Durability-Dependability-Quality Functional and comfortable for hauling 4-5 people. Safety Simplicity in Design and ability to modify. The Mercedes has build quality and performance, but not a reputation for quality. Repair work is expensive. And I would be nervous after 100k. Same with the Rover. Electrical nightmares and questionable quality. The Mercedes is a potentially great car. Get me a large number of owners going off-road on trips that test the vehicle and I might change my mind, but right now, the Mercedes buyer is a luxury buyer, and I don't have confidence that the vehicle can handle the beating I will deliver..

Some of that thinking is antiquated. The newer LR products are much more reliable than the nightmare of the 2003 discovery II. As for the G500, they're all over the world in various forms like a 70 series. It's essentially a military vehicle dolled up for luxury buyers (similar to the 200). Granted it was with the Diesel engine, but that one guy racked up 800,000 miles on his G300 driving around the world for 20 years. Price and maintenance costs and a lack of data points in the US are the major pitfalls of the G platform. But there aren't many 200 here or 200s used offroad. The used price of a 200 and G550 is about the same. And I bet the parts are a similar cost too.

 

[Cfbrenton1]

The Mercedes G is the only one. Everything else pales in comparison.

I just bought another 2007 LX because I don't like the look of the LX570. It has 51k miles so should last a while. It is my third LX 470. I also just bought a mint LX450 for winter. Hopefully I wont ruin it in the salt and snow here.

 

[yeti in ga]

my BJ73... has replaced my 100s for everyday driving. but I would not trade one for the other.

 

[patrickfinley]

If I had a 2007 LC and it was totaled I would be shopping for a 200 series, 2010+ GX or 2010+ 4Runner. It would all depend on the size of the family. Nothing else would give me that long term peace of mind.

 

[CreeperSleeper]

My needs are a bit different than most people on here but if I had to replace my 100 for something else, it would be a LBZ Duramax crew cab or a 5.7 Tundra Crew Max. However, I pull a trailer more than most...

 

[El Cid]

I woudo say it depends what you're using it for. I looked at new JKURs, G500s, tacomas etc. LR4 if going off road isn't as high of a priority.

Some of that thinking is antiquated. The newer LR products are much more reliable than the nightmare of the 2003 discovery II. .

It's a function of bad design. Land Rovers have problems with the steering column adjustment. Seriously? I know two people that have told me their steering columns had problem in the first six months, in addition to the other primarily electrical problems.

I believe that fundamentally, the engine quality of the Rover is good. But I only have to look under the hood and at the wiring diagrams to see potential problems..

I will build probably 5 computer workstations at 5k a piece in the next few months, there is a very relevant comparison to autos in how motherboards/computers are designed.

If it looks unnecessarily complex, it probably is...

 

[mobi-arc]

My brother picked up a QX56.....nice truck...fugly but nice. And at $20k less than a 200-series, Mr. Toyota is just getting spanked in the US market by a more appropriately priced vehicle. But then again, I don't think it comes as any surprise that Mr. Toyota has all but given up on selling 200-series from sea to shining sea in lieu of its more lucrative LX version. So if I had to replace my Land Cruiser today, I would have great difficulty spending $76,000 on a 200-series.

 

[ChuckB]

There is a small yet dedicated group of Gwagen owners who use their trucks offroad. clubgwagen.com I frequent the forum to see what they are up to.

 

[dclee]

463 G-Wagens do have some electronics, but the mechanicals are solid. The truck is basically unchanged since 1979, heck you can even order the sheetmetal panels from MB for a 1981 300GD (trust me).

It's in use by the military forces of more countries than any other similar vehicle. MB was planning to drop the G a few years back in favor of the GL, but NATO commitments led them to extend the vehicle to 2015. I think that alone speaks to its toughness and dependability. That includes the U.S. (Marine Force Recon and MEUs use the G as their Fast Attack Vehicle). I think even Australia (bastion of Land Cruisers) recently selected the G over both the LC and the LR for its military.

Not trying to be a troll, we have a 100 Series (our third LC which we will be keeping) and will be selling our turbo-diesel 300GD, but it is difficult to deny the capability of this truck. Coming from 80 Series LCs, the G matches up nicely with two solid axles and three lockers. Also unique is the t-case that allows shifting from hi to lo range 4x4 without have to first stop the vehicle and put it in neutral. Using it in sandy environments, it is almost like magic...

 

[Lx470iH8Mud]

^^Agreed!!!

 

[Lx470iH8Mud]

G63 AMG 6x6
If money were no object:
http://youtu.be/Z39jXZfCpf0

 

[uzj100]

The tailgate and reliability keep me in a 100. If a g had a tailgate, this would be a much harder choice.

 

[slider35]

Thanks for all the replies. Here's the reason for the post. Put a lot of time into this LX. After 3 days, my feelings are the only thing hurting right now. Can't say enough for the safety factor of the LX; save the fact that it rolled.

 

[uzj100]

Thank goodness you are ok. What year is that truck?

 

[PapaSmurfj80]

This is probably going to get blasted here, but the 03-06 BitsOSushi Montero would be my second choice. The drive train is a beast and they are often viewed as the only competition with regards to off roading in the rest of the world. I've read they are going to "reintroduce" the Pajero/Shogun to NA in 2014, which would be awesome.

 

[BullElk]

You guys are traitors.

 

[WoodyCreature]

^ What he said