Duraback or Herculiner?

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I did the inside of my 40 and I think it turned out great. Been about a year and no fading or peeling. I just used a wire brush attachment for my dewalt and went to town on the old paint and rust.
I did not use the rollers at all, instead I poured some in a pint paint can held it and then stuck an air gun in the can and started spraying. Took about 30 min to do the insides. Used almost the entire gallon and it looks great. DO NOT GET THIS STUFF ON YOU!!! It took paint thinnner/gas and a lot of rubbing to get this stuff off my hands and arms. Good luck!
 
74fj40 said:
are dura back and herculiner just as strong as rhinoliner??

Rhino is applied thicker, about 1/4". Duraback, never seen it in person.
The key with the Herculiner is it is a do it yourself product, less cost. Rhino and other commercial brands are going to cost 3 to 4 times the cost. Not to mention the cost to get it to the shop and back. Not going to be driving it without an interior.
 
DuraBack and Herculiner

are the same and are really the best alternative to rhino, speedliner, or other pro stuff. If you have the $$, get a good spray in liner. It will last longer and look better. I used Herculiner on my 40 (cause I spent all my $$ on HFS Susp) about 2 weeks ago inside the tub front to back and I think it looks pretty good I hope that it will last a while. Sucks to hear that it wears off edges though. BTW I used 1.5 gal on mine so it's pretty thick. :beer:
 
I posted pix of my work in progress on Pirate. I used a couple gallons of the "Duplicolor" stuff form wally-world. It was sprayed in. It also has no use on it as I am still rebuilding things. However, it looks like it will hold up. Yes. it is over aluminum, but I also used a good self etching primer. All in all, I used 3 gallons. 2 gallons on the interior tub, slowly built up, and 1 gallon on the exterior, and underside. Total cost involved is just at $100. I just hope it holds up.
 
I Herculined the entire outside of my Pig a few years ago. Black of course. Found it on sale for about 60 bucks a gallon. used 3 gallons. Prepped like they said, rolled and brushed it on. It's held up pretty well, I did back into a tree once, scraped some off. But it patched up nicely with another gallon.
 
Again if I had the money I would have had it professionally sprayed in. I preped and preped and prepped, wirewheel, no rust etc. It is not bad but thin and flimsy. A good interior for a passenger truck but not a good bedliner. So it depends what you want. I read and reread on the hndreds of posts of durabak/herc versus duplicolor (Wally world stuff) and there are terrible reviews on the duplicolor (Sorry green73 and hope you have better results) so I think Herc/durabak is a good compromise. But again if I were to do it again I would have definetely gone with professional especially on a truck I spent so much time on. Yes Cruiserbrett you were right (he warned me) I was just not very rich at the time and was looking to spray it soon though. I masked where needed and used the shutx gun to spray it, I have seen lots of the roll on jobs and I think spraying is definetely the way to go. Here is a photo of my spray. You want to adjust your compressor accordingly, the complete coverage was perfect at about 40-60 PSI I figure (you can adjust on the gun) but bennett did his using his 80 gallon big boy compressor and used 25 psi and his job was just as good. 25 PSI on mine caused lots of dripping, wasted durabak, and medium-crappy coverage. Luckily the second coat fixed that though...
Good: http://www.collegeinternetsolutions.com/cisautoweb/fj55/bedliner/IMAG0201.JPG
Bad: http://www.collegeinternetsolutions.com/cisautoweb/fj55/bedliner/IMAG0200.JPG

And a side by side. You want to apply as throughly as paint. I t was way easy to do, anyone with an air compressor can spray it easiliy, no paint experience required...
http://www.collegeinternetsolutions.com/cisautoweb/fj55/bedliner/IMAG0202.JPG
 
I sprayed in the Herculiner a couple weeks back. Checker auto was running a sale for $79 a gallon plus a $20 mail in rebate (haven't received yet) I had the seats and everything out of the FJ40 for a tranny swap and decided it would be a good time to line the tub. In addition to the tub I sprayed the rocker panels as well. I thought it sprayed in well. I had read about someone using the gatoraid bottle with the gun. I tried it and it was a pain! I assumed it would screw on, it didn't. I had to duck tape in on, which worked well the first bottle worth, but when you need to add more material in the bottle, the tape wouldn't stick to the bottle anymore and I had to hold the bottle while I sprayed. For the next coat I ran to the local auto paint shop and found a little aluminion bottle that screwed onto the gun. Cost me another $3.50 but money well spent in my view! My coats took longer to dry than the instructions said. The weather was pushing the lower temperature rating for what they recommended. I may have put it on thicker than some have which may have added to the dry time, but I have no problems with not covering. I liked it so much I pulled up the old sticky tape that keeps coming off my porch ramp and used the herculiner on that as well. No more slips.

Troy
 
Yeah, I have read the reviews too, and thought long about taking the route I did. The reason I went with the Duplicolor stuff was, I could lay a thicker coat for less $$$, and if it does fleck off, I can touch it up with a cheap spray can. Another reason was just for experience. Would I like to have gone with Line-X, or any other pro stuff? You betcha. And to anyone not willing to do a little touch-up now and again I would suggest the pro stuff. I actually called the local Line-X place for an estimate, they quoted $350 for inside and out, without doing the underside, and I do all the prep work. For comparison. Not wanting to start a debate on which brand/style is best as I truely do not know, just stating my reason.
 
Rattleguard that you can get on Ebay... It's cheaper, the kit comes with a gun, it comes in colors, and 1 1/2 gallons will easily cover the interior. I add some fiberglass microbead to thicken the mix, but this is not a requirement. The microbeads combine with the epoxy based bed liner to form a fiberglass like shell. Be sure to cover anything you don't want coated as this stuff does not come off!

P.S. Do not use the black rubber texture that comes with the kit if you use a color. The black will show through.
 
Ive got experience with both, used it on a friends heep. Hurk inside and Dura on the out, about to do the interior tub on the 40 with dura. In my opinion the dura is the better one to go with if your worried with dirt clinging to everything. Hurk is good stuff as is dura, the only difference is particle size dura being smaller and easier to clean.
 

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