Driving in sand (3 Viewers)

[FrazzledHunter]

Remind me what tire size you run again?

A number of people in my group run the 450P. Old faithful, solid performance, and a premium pump that will always deliver. For something less than a 35" tire, great pump to get. For a 35+ tire, and if going from super low to high inflation pressures like towing, say 15-45PSI, it can get tedious. At 6 min per tire, x4, and it's 30+ plus minutes considering the logistics of pulling the pump out, hooking to battery, connecting to tire, moving from each tire (octopus helps)... 30 minutes isn't bad, but it's enough time where it might be a factor in not airing down at all or low enough.

Some might say why the rush. Depends on use case and how one uses it, but there are days off-roading when transitioning on freeways between segments, where having to air down/up 2-3 times a day, makes a fast pump worth it.

If you have a mild tire size, and team red, the Milwaukee M18 is a great inflator. Not as fast as the 450P, but it's self contained/powered. Auto shutoff. The ease of use can make it a great pump especially when considering the trailer.

There's some epically fast new kids on the block too. Something like the MOORFlate FiveSix or even TenSix. Requires octopuses as they're that fast and too limited by the tiny Schrader Valves. Many re-branded and variations of these pumps on the market all over the place, though not all will exactly the same or of the same quality.

Aw nuts - I meant to put in the tire sizes. Geesh.

• The LC runs OEM size Michelin Defender 285/60 R18 which call for 33 PSI cold.
  • These are obviously the tires that will be aired down to 18-20 PSI and back up to 33 PSI.
• The trailer is a dual axle and runs 4 Westlake CR857+ ST235/75 R15 which call for 51 PSI cold.
  • My current Viair 300P struggles with this pressure. It may just be old.
  • But I won't be airing the trailer tires down/up, just adding a pound or two as needed.

I have Anderson SB-50 connectors in the LC cabin on the driver's and passenger's side foot-well so getting to DC isn't too bad.
I guess I'm looking for a compressor I can start up and go around the LC with a hose and fill, fill, fill, fill without having to stop and wait for it to cool.

The MOORFlate look intriguing.

 

[jl199986]

The MOORFlate look intriguing.

Very happy with my Moorflate 10/6 Pro. Well built, runs cool, super fast, easy to set. Keeps all tires equal. Only for x4 inflation really. Hose is easy enough to roll up. Stores in a Trekboxx wing- snugly.

 

[TeCKis300]

Aw nuts - I meant to put in the tire sizes. Geesh.

• The LC runs OEM size Michelin Defender 285/60 R18 which call for 33 PSI cold.
  • These are obviously the tires that will be aired down to 18-20 PSI and back up to 33 PSI.
• The trailer is a dual axle and runs 4 Westlake CR857+ ST235/75 R15 which call for 51 PSI cold.
  • My current Viair 300P struggles with this pressure. It may just be old.
  • But I won't be airing the trailer tires down/up, just adding a pound or two as needed.

I have Anderson SB-50 connectors in the LC cabin on the driver's and passenger's side foot-well so getting to DC isn't too bad.
I guess I'm looking for a compressor I can start up and go around the LC with a hose and fill, fill, fill, fill without having to stop and wait for it to cool.

The MOORFlate look intriguing.

For stock size tires, I think the MOORFlate is going to be too much pump if I'm being honest.

I would actually recommend the Milwaukee M18. The cordless convenience and utility (no power cords and hoses) can't be beat. For on road and home. I've aired down the trailer before and even putting in the extra extension hose to reach with installed onboard air sometimes makes me lazy. If a fire road is beyond a few miles, I'll air down the trailer - for the softer ride, tire puncture protection, and floatation in sand. Having an easy ability to air up makes me make better decisions.

 

[FrazzledHunter]

For stock size tires, I think the MOORFlate is going to be too much pump if I'm being honest.

I would actually recommend the Milwaukee M18. The cordless convenience and utility (no power cords and hoses) can't be beat. For on road and home. I've aired down the trailer before and even putting in the extra extension hose to reach with installed onboard air sometimes makes me lazy. If a fire road is beyond a few miles, I'll air down the trailer - for the softer ride, tire puncture protection, and floatation in sand. Having an easy ability to air up makes me make better decisions.

I really wished I could have driven on that beach but airing up might have been too much for my compressor. I wasn't keen on "Fooling Around and Finding Out" or bothering anyone else.

The MOORFlate is a lot of compressor! Just wow. Perhaps it isn't a good match for me, I think, because I'd like a compressor that moves around with me from the LC, travel trailer and even our old '06 Avalon. The LC will be airing down and up, but I don't plan on airing down the trailer.

Hadn't heard about the M18. I'll have a look.

Meanwhile I stumbled on the ARB portables - I thought they only made the mounted type which are great, but I want a very portable setup. I love the case, air volume and duty cycle of this one. It's probably worth every penny. But OMG the price!
Brushless Single Motor Portable 12V Air Compressor CKBLP12 - https://store.arbusa.com/brushless-single-motor-portable-12v-air-compressor-ckblp12/

Any idea if we have an official compressor thread?

 

[TexomaPowerboater]

There is a great youtube video on this topic. The video shows that for really soft sand you will want to put in 4low and disengage traction control twice - hit switch once, and then click it a second time and hold down to completely disengage the traction and likely stabiltrac with the second effort. The video shows the car cutting power automatically when tires spin if you don't do as mentioned and that is likely why some of ya'll had to use crawl control to begin with.

 

[Sandroad]

There is a great youtube video on this topic. The video shows that for really soft sand you will want to put in 4low and disengage traction control twice - hit switch once, and then click it a second time and hold down to completely disengage the traction and likely stabiltrac with the second effort. The video shows the car cutting power automatically when tires spin if you don't do as mentioned and that is likely why some of ya'll had to use crawl control to begin with.

What vehicle is this for? It’s not for the 200 series.