Driveshaft spline chamber venting ?

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I have my rear drive shaft off my 74 (doing t-case output bearings) and noticed something puzzling to me.

The rear sliding spline chamber seems to be airtight. I could not push in the spline end of the shaft without releasing air by taking out the grease nipple. My front drive shaft spline chamber is vented into the middle of the yoke – this slides easily.

My concern is under rear axle compression when the drive shaft moves forward along the splines, this pressurized air chamber exerts pressure on the transfer rear output shaft bearings in a forward direction. And when the rear axle goes down, the spline chamber resists the backward sliding spline section (like a vacuum) and exerts a pulling force backward on the T-case output flange backward. So you can visualize while driving over undulating terrain this would cause forward and backward pulling stresses on the rear T-case output flange as the airtight chamber in the drive shaft resists ‘compression’ and ‘expansion’.

My question is – why isn’t this chamber vented to equalize air pressure ??

I am wondering if this addition pushing and pulling stress on the front spline section and onto the T-Case output flange has contributed to the premature failure of my T-Case output bearings (front and back bearings and races were worn with relatively low mileage 130k).

The wear pattern on the front and rear races (t-case rear output shaft bearing) would appear consistent to the output shaft rocking back and forth due to these back and forth stresses as I have described above.

If the driveshaft spline chamber supposed to vented?
 
they should have a hole with a plug in it inside the yoke. The plug usually has a smaller hole in the centre of it.

Take the DS off, remove the uni and drill your own hole.

Be sure to stick your finger over it when you grease the spline so it dont just ooze straight out of it.
 
yep, i have not seen any "hole" inside the rear plug but i have continuously seen the "holy crap" pressure on the spline. release the grease fitting and it goes in and out easily.
you could drill a small hole but if the pressure gets high enough it will pop out the plug...
 
they should have a hole with a plug in it inside the yoke. The plug usually has a smaller hole in the centre of it.

Take the DS off, remove the uni and drill your own hole.

Be sure to stick your finger over it when you grease the spline so it dont just ooze straight out of it.


I do not see this 'plug 'you are talking about.

ToyoDIY.com
 
you also have to remember as the suspension compresses the driveshaft lengthens...not compresses
 
I do not see this 'plug 'you are talking about.

ToyoDIY.com

When I was greasing the front shaft spline on mine last summer I noticed grease oozing out into the space between the yoke and the U-joint. On closer inspection I saw that the plug was gone. I had recently been on a long trip on very badly frost heaved roads, and I suspect that might have popped the plug. A local machine shop had a plug that fit into the machined recess in the yoke. I had them drill a 1/16" hole in the center and securely mount it in the yoke so it won't happen again.
 
So is this 'plug 'designed to keep water' out, by let air escape from the spline chamber when it compresses and allow air in when the spline shaft lengthens ?

If so the spline chamber is vented ?
 
if that was the case then removing the grease nipple would not be required...
 
So is this 'plug 'designed to keep water' out, by let air escape from the spline chamber when it compresses and allow air in when the spline shaft lengthens ?

If so the spline chamber is vented ?

It shouldnt be pressurized. The grease should be able to ooze through the splines and lubricate them at the same time.
If the grease is not working its way through the splines,maybe there is some old dry grease blocking it.
The driveshaft probably only moves on its splines no more than 10-20mm

The disc/plug at the end is to stop the grease oozing out the front of the driveshaft.
 
you answered your own question.
normal driveshafts can not go shorter, only longer.
one of the reasons i only did a couple shackle reversals, the idea of compressing the bearings on either the diff or front output. of course proper travel of a custom shaft would have solved that. back then i did not have the funds for a custom shaft.
 
When greasing I never do more then a few squirts at a time. The tighter the fit of the splines the better you can see the driveshaft extent because of the pressure inside. If you keep on squirting grease, the driveshaft acts as a ram.
Don't know or they are true but heard stories of people damaging their transfercase(-bearings) because of having pumped in too much grease in one time.
 
i might see that happening but the plug in the end should pop out first with that amount of pressure...
 
i might see that happening but the plug in the end should pop out first with that amount of pressure...

Don't know about other versions but my HZJ73 defenately has no plug whatsoever. The small shaft (that has the 'fork' the u-joint fits in -the yoke?) is one piece of solid metal as far as I could see replacing the U-joint.
When I have to move the rear axle ( f.e. replacing bushings) I remove the grease-nipple in the driveshaft to be able to move the axle a bit.
 
On most makes the rear driveshaft splines have presure to some degree. It is to keep a load on the rear output bearing and keep the splines tight. Toyota , Dodge , and class 8 trucks like the Peterbilt 379 I operate. When you pump grease in the slip yoke you can see the driveshaft lengthen, but it will only go so far.
The front slip yoke splines are not presurized, the grease will vent to the front of the yoke toward the front pinion, that is why the splines wear out on the front including the front output bearing much faster
Most of you people knew that already," Some presure is good "
 
With the drive shaft on the bench I can't push the spline in due air pressure or pull it out, due to suction resistance. The front moves much more easily.

is this normal?

I am wondering if this pressure is pushing on the T-Case output bearing, which may explain why it prematurely failed
 
normal, the rear driveshaft has always acted like that one all the ones i have played with...

since there is very little air getting in to release the suction/pressure then it is a firm push in with the grease plug out and a firm pull out as well.

at least this is my experience...
 
thats not right, i would say the spline is damaged. It should move easily when removed like that...

No the splines are fine and grease is fresh- just the spline seal with the grease is virtually airtight on the rear.
 
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