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Don't let them have your 200 (3 Viewers)
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anotherr same thread willl start in few weeks
this exact thread was 31 pages before it was done for previously
80 with a lx = suga daddy status
And that's the crux of this thread. Or what the LC250 pushers don't understand.
Truth is that the name Land Cruiser, to 200-series owners, refers to a specific model at the top of lineup. "Land Cruiser" for the LC250 contingent is a lineup built upon an aspirational reach for that same gloried legacy and heritage that previous Land Cruiser halo models established. Now available in a watered down commodity "Land Cruiser" model.
The OPs point and first hand experience of both vehicles is that the "Land Cruiser" doesn't measure up to the Land Cruiser 200-series. They are completely different models made for different price points and hence to different standards.
@rexington14 asked a great question of what makes or does not make a real 200-series or even 300-series Land Cruiser.
- 200-series Land Cruisers are not aspirational. They are the top of the lineup.
- 200-series Land Cruisers do not use the smallest diff with only 2-pinion front carriers in Toyota's BoF wagon lineup.
- 200-series Land Cruisers are exceedingly durability and overbuilt. 4mm a the rear axle lower control arm mount. 6.3mm at the rear lower shock mount. Versus half that spec for the LC250 at 2mm and 3mm respectively
- 200-series Land Cruisers has 2x front bumps. Versus the 1 on the LC250
- 200-series Land Cruisers front LCA shock mount is double sheer. Versus single on the LC250 (and has seen failures)
- 200-series Land Cruisers don't look like or share 4Runner parts underneath.
Wtf. Did you rear-end a Decepticon?
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Are you familiar with humor?
The hybrid sucks. I don't have any positive argument there. It would be better without it.
Not mine. I have no idea, but it looks like it was on the wrong end of a mortar or something. I can't imagine that it was survivable by an occupant in any of the seats.
Is the the goal of this thread to make new members of the Land Cruiser community feel s***ty about their not-cheap investment in a new 250 or GX? Because if it is, you guys are doing a hell of a job.
What a welcoming committee.
What a welcoming committee.
yes, @TeCKis300 @eatSleepWoof are the President of our welcoming committee. They won a fair election in this forum.
250/gx owners have their own section
“investment” = LOL
this is the 200 section- no obligation to welcome non 200 members
women dont welcome me in their bathrooms. i go to the mens bathroom
Exactly.
The 200 isn’t “above” the 250 it’s beside it. Three options Station Wagon, Practical, or Heavy Duty. Simple as that. Same standards, different roles.
Well said, Twilly.
If the question is should I buy a 200 or a 250, I’ll tell you why I think you should buy a 200.
If the question is would you trade your 200 for a 250, I’ll tell you why I wouldn’t.
If the question is did the 250 owners buy the wrong truck or is the 250 a bad truck, I’ll tell you no. It’s a great truck. It looks great, and it is more capable than almost any new vehicle out there. It will bring its owner and his family joy, connection to nature, adventure, pride of ownership, and for the most part, safety and security.
Yes, it’s a little lighter duty, it’s got some newfangled features that are unproven, it’s got some newfangled features that are annoying (but can generally be turned off), it doesn’t have the aura of the older models (not yet anyway), and it’s pretty expensive.
But that is splitting hairs and nitpicking. Ultimately, it will be a vehicle that most of its owners will love owning and will have great fun in.
If the question is do I think the 250 is a cool truck that I ogle every time I see even though I have no intention of buying one or trading my 200 for it, I will tell you emphatically Yes.
I'm not sure that's exactly what I asked, but I'm not surprised you've jumped to establishing the 200 series as the baseline for what makes a Land Cruiser a real Land Cruiser. Maybe a real Land Cruiser is whichever Land Cruiser one owns?
Besides the very first bullet point (which is luxury / comfort), I sincerely doubt the other differences would have even been detectable by the OP during a simple 5 day test drive on a ski trip.
Their?
I'm seeing the new GX everywhere. I serviced my LX the other day there were 4 of them in the new car delivery bays. The GX is very compelling. And for not much savings you can have a Landcruiser 250 which feels like it's $30,000 cheaper. At least the 200s the Toyota didn't feel like a massive downgrade compared to the Lexus sibling.
People want nice things for their money.
People want nice things for their money.
Yikes. That is a brand new LC300. They hadn’t even dealer prepped it yet.
Wild, if I traded my 250 for a 200, it would feel like a downgrade. (Not saying it is a downgrade for everyone it's mostly the outdated 2008 design, not the Station Wagon series itself, which is equal.) Nah, the LC250 doesn’t feel like a downgrade compared to the GX to me. The GX just doesn’t do it for me its interior layout and exterior both lack the charm of the 250’s. Honestly, I’m a fan of the 4banger and hybrid combo. The fact that the inverter can power cooktops, recharge battery banks, and act like a generator wherever I am is useful going camping and during a power outage. Sick setup, IMO.
If this 250 fails and something horrible goes wrong, my fallback vehicle would be the 200 it’s the only other vehicle I’d turn to. But honestly? I doubt anything will fail.
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Nobody cares....seriously.
If you let a post coming from someone that uses their own pov and let it offend or affect you, while not understanding the simple fact that it was made from their pov and not meant to offend, you are the problem.
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