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I thought Akita's were very aggressive. Do not take that as fact but look into it.

I would go with the German Shepard, they are very easy to train and are super smart.

Not dissing the Doberman or the Akita just stating my opinion.

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Akita's are very loyal to thier owner.

I believe they were bread as true protector dogs for the chinese emporers back in history.

I thought Akita's were very aggressive. Do not take that as fact but look into it.

I would go with the German Shepard, they are very easy to train and are super smart.

Not dissing the Doberman or the Akita just stating my opinion.

lunyou
 
Just make sure it's not an East German. They have communist tenancies.

I love GSD, but they can be agressive if not trained properly. Probably like most other dogs. My parents had one that would jump the fence, but he was smart enough he figured out that when you called him he could run around and jump back in in the back of the house so we wouldn't know. Of course we caught on.
 
I thought Akita's were very aggressive. Do not take that as fact but look into it.
lunyou

Covered that many posts back...
Watch out though, some Akitas can be aggressive, as can shepherds.



Akita's are very loyal to thier owner.

I believe they were bread as true protector dogs for the chinese emporers back in history.

Japan, but close. Akita Inu. There is another off-shoot not AKC recognized, the American Akita, it has some slight changes, particularly in temperment.

Just make sure it's not an East German. They have communist tenancies.

I love GSD, but they can be agressive if not trained properly. Probably like most other dogs. My parents had one that would jump the fence, but he was smart enough he figured out that when you called him he could run around and jump back in in the back of the house so we wouldn't know. Of course we caught on.

The record for high jump in dogs is a greyhound, recently overtaking a GSD's prior record...
 
After years and years of dog rescue, I'd stay away from chows, akitas, and any mixes of the group. I disagree with Tofu on the chow thing. I would wager that 85% of the dogs that were given up through the rescue I worked with were chow mixes. Most often cited issue, snapped at the kid. Not that I don't think that chows are good dogs, personally I love them, but they require dedication and training that the average person will not give a dog.

However, I agree that a trip to the pound is a great idea. Here are some things to try with the dogs you look at. It's what I did when I was trying to evaluate if I was going to take a dog from the shelter into a foster home situation:

Ask to have the dog removed from it's pen and taken to a neutral location.
Observe the dog when the shelter worker goes in to get the dog. Does it cower? Shake? Jump? Spin?
Watch the posture of the dog. Is it's weight forward? Ears up or down? Tail wagging or limp or tucked?
As the dog walks, is it looking ahead, around, up? Does it strain on the leash?
Approach the dog slowly and observe what it does. Ask the same questions as above. Remember you have a 2 year old at home. If that dog jumps, it will do the same thing to the kid and before you know it, the kid will be crying and you'll be pissed at the dog.


I could go on and on...but here's a good article about temperment testing. Dog Tip: Assessing Shelter Dogs and Temperament Testing And even if you get a pup, do the test anyway. I once rescued a six week old puppy and by the time it was 10 week old I had to have it put down...it had puppy rage and attacked me and I couldn't get near it.

Good luck!
 
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After years and years of dog rescue, I'd stay away from chows, akitas, and any mixes of the group. I disagree with Tofu on the chow thing. I would wager that 85% of the dogs that were given up through the rescue I worked with were chow mixes. Most often cited issue, snapped at the kid. Not that I don't think that chows are good dogs, personally I love them, but they require dedication and training that the average person will not give a dog.

However, I agree that a trip to the pound is a great idea. Here are some things to try with the dogs you look at. It's what I did when I was trying to evaluate if I was going to take a dog from the shelter into a foster home situation:

Ask to have the dog removed from it's pen and taken to a neutral location.
Observe the dog when the shelter worker goes in to get the dog. Does it cower? Shake? Jump? Spin?
Watch the posture of the dog. Is it's weight forward? Ears up or down? Tail wagging or limp or tucked?
As the dog walks, is it looking ahead, around, up? Does it strain on the leash?
Approach the dog slowly and observe what it does. Ask the same questions as above. Remember you have a 2 year old at home. If that dog jumps, it will do the same thing to the kid and before you know it, the kid will be crying and you'll be pissed at the dog.


I could go on and on...but here's a good article about temperment testing. Dog Tip: Assessing Shelter Dogs and Temperament Testing And even if you get a pup, do the test anyway. I once rescued a six week old puppy and by the time it was 10 week old I had to have it put down...it had puppy rage and attacked me and I couldn't get near it.

Good luck!

Solid advice and she's right about Chows. I have a special affinity for them, but they are prone to aggression. It can be pretty easily be screened for though, but it is a major consideration, especially if you have kids.
 
Go to the pound. Ask to see some chow mixes, aged 1-3. Find one that is playful and not at all fearful. Make sure it is not overly dog aggressive. A chow/collie, chow/lab, show/shepherd....

A chow is an AMAZING dog, if diluted, and very common in pounds (for several reasons). Amazingly loyal, stunningly smart, can be among the best-looking dogs around, generally VERY healthy, cold and heat tolerant, and will protect your family to the death. Coat can be a bit dense and the undercoat thick, but workable.

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This really belongs in the Pets and Animal section.

x2. Then the OP coulda searched & posted up specific questions about each breed...

I have been loved by Dobermans for 10 years now, and can't imagine life without 1 (or 2). Just got a 6yo girl from the shelter a couple months ago, and couldn't be happier with her.

She was very nervous when I first met her at the shelter, but that was due to the noise (she was keeping herself to herself in the outside kennel), and when the volunteer said meet & greet was over she came over to me, which is when I knew she'd be mine.

Some people are fearful, but that's on them. My doberboy is a rehomed former service dog who is very good at knowing how much to interact with new people.

Nothing against GSD's: I've lived with them for several years, and they are also good dogs.

Whatever breed you get, you'll want a mellow dog, instead of high-drive working mentalility. That'll buy a lot of patience with the lil 2legged, insteada stealing toys & getting bugged by the ear & tail pulling.

Getting a mature dog from a rescue group is a GREAT way to make good choices. The dogs are evaluated for behavior prior to placement, have all the 'owie' stuff done (shots & spay/neuter), and the rescue group can serve as an information resource if you have questions later.

Another vote against BYB, buying a puppy outta the paper, or at a pet store. Fostered a very ill-bred dog for a month: great personality with humans, but very poor health & temperment w/my dogs.

That's my 2c = worth exactly whatcha paid for it. :cheers:
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Lemme tell you what...pit bulls are among the sweetest dogs I have ever known, with extremely notable exceptions, of course. They do not turn, despite the popular notion. If abused, they're done, game over. If not, they're awesome.

A dog doesn't have to be abused to bite someone.
 
A dog doesn't have to be abused to bite someone.
True enough. And if a pit bull bites, its equipment will do more damage than pretty much any other breed, but they are not especially prone to biting people (dogs, yes). Is it a loaded gun? I do not believe so, based on my first-hand experience with literally scores of them.
 
Do people get a little bit edgy and fearful when they see you with your Doberman ?

Ours is completely socialized and is great with people. People who are already afraid of dogs will be more afraid of a Doberman. Little kids are not. They take to him very well.

He's smart and great with kids. Time will tell about health issues. He's about 20 months.

Here's a blue, bred by our breeder.

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Ours is completely socialized and is great with people. People who are already afraid of dogs will be more afraid of a Doberman. Little kids are not. They take to him very well.

He's smart and great with kids. Time will tell about health issues. He's about 20 months.

Here's a blue, bred by our breeder.

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Great looking dobe!

If you like a dog with tons of energy to do outdoor stuff with, a dobe is as good as any.

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So I went out to someone's house to see some GSD puppies. My god the dad was crazy. I pulled up to their house and the couple had a huge backyards. Must have been able to breed 20-30 dogs in that setup. The father is tied up to a tree and is barking non stop. yes it's in the afternoon, but the owner was out there with us. Dog is running around in circles spinning and barking at the same time. the mother is barking non stop too. the owner could not get them to cease barking. Then my dad gets this bright idea that he knows dogs and he walks closer to the dog, the dog actually starts getting real agressive and the owner gets in the way and kinda of blocks the dog.. the wife is saying whatever you do, don't let him get near the dog..


Wow. The puppies were nice, but don't the puppies learn a lot from their parents. I want my dog to be super obedient, trust worthy, loving, kind and caring. And only protective when I tell him too. If i tell him to cease he will cease immediately and not open up a word (given I teach him right). I read online the best breed for this type of training is the GSD. But after seeing this I'm really quiet amazed.

the guy also told me his wife has been breeding for 18 years so I'm guessing she's pretty good at this? But the dogs temperament was terrible. When we were leaving, the bitch actually jumped up on her steel fence
 
Great looking dobe!

If you like a dog with tons of energy to do outdoor stuff with, a dobe is as good as any.


Are doberman's clingy? That's what a few people have told me.

I'm really confused on this whole inheritance stuff. I've seen GSD's and Doberman's ranging from 300 $ to 7500 $. Don't understand the reasoning behind all this. So is behavior inherited? I know genetic disorders and illness are inherited but what about personality, temper, willingness to obey, etc..
 
Are doberman's clingy? That's what a few people have told me.

I'm really confused on this whole inheritance stuff. I've seen GSD's and Doberman's ranging from 300 $ to 7500 $. Don't understand the reasoning behind all this. So is behavior inherited? I know genetic disorders and illness are inherited but what about personality, temper, willingness to obey, etc..

Dobermans are not a dog that can be left outside to entertain itself. Some of them can become Velcro dogs, if allowed. I had to call mine in this morning for breakfast because they were 'protecting' the yard from a wandering neighbor dog.

Different parts of behaviour can be learned, some (drive) is inheirited. Temperment can be shaped, personality often develops, and willingness to work for you comes from how much they enjoy the work you are asking them to do.

What you saw was a classic BackYardBreeder. The dogs you saw are very probably heavily line-bred (in-bred), and the pups could well model the behavior you saw, unless the breeder and you are extremely vigilant about socializing the one you choose.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you want a family companion dog who will interact appropriately with a 2yo human on up, and you have experience w/Rotties. Why not stick w/a Rott?

Price range: for a pet-quality dog from a reputable breeder I wouldn't go much over a grand, unless you are thinking about getting into competitive sports (Agility, Obediance, Herding). [My rescue cost $60 at the pound, and the re-home was free.] The local dober rescue charges $250, and Animal Humane charges $125 for 'pure-bred's.

Keep those good questions coming...
 

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