Death Valley Days 2/12-2/15

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Thanks for all the Intel Mark and Landcrusher. I thought someone mentioned being able to go to a local Phx area office and buy the $20 pass as well.

Brice do you remember who made that comment?
 
PAYMENT LOCATIONS
Payment of the park entrance fee and purchase of annual or lifetime passes using either credit card or cash may be done at these locations during business hours;
  • Furnace Creek Visitor Center
  • Scotty's Castle Visitor Center (Closed until further notice)
  • Stovepipe Wells Ranger Station
  • Furnace Creek Campground kiosk (when staffed October 15 to April 15)
Payment of park entrance fees using credit card only may be done at automated fee machines 24/7 at:
  • Furnace Creek Visitor Center
  • Stovepipe Wells Ranger Station
  • Grapevine Ranger Station
  • Ryan Kiosk (east entrance to park on Hwy 190)
  • Zabriskie Point
  • Badwater
  • Hell's Gate (Daylight Pass Road)
  • Furnace Creek Campground (April 16 to October 14)
  • Sunset Campground (when open)
  • Texas Springs Campground (when open)
  • Stovepipe Wells Campground (when open)
  • Mesquite Springs Campground
 
Backcountry Camping

Backcountry camping is allowed with the following restrictions.These apply to vehicle camping and backpacking. If in doubt whether an area is open to camping please check at the Furnace Creek Visitor Center or the nearest Ranger Station.

Campfires are not allowed, except in fire rings provided in developed campgrounds. Gathering firewood and burning of wood is unlawful in the backcountry. Use of low impact gas stoves is encouraged.

Overnight group size is limited to 15 people and no more than six vehicles.

Where you can camp

Camping is allowed two miles from any developed area, paved road, or "day use only" area. Camp only in previously disturbed areas and park your vehicle close to the roadway to minimize impact. Backcountry campsites must be more than 100 yards from any water source to protect these fragile areas for wildlife use.

Day Use Only Areas

No camping within two miles of the Titus Canyon Road, Mosaic Canyon Road, West Side Road, Wildrose Road, Skidoo Road, Aguereberry Point Road, Cottonwood Canyon Road (first eight miles only), Racetrack Road (from Teakettle Junction to Homestake Dry Camp), Keane Wonder Mine, Lost Burro Mine, Ubehebe Lead Mine. Camping should be avoided near all mining areas for personal safety. No camping on the valley floor from Ashford Mill in the south to two miles north of Stovepipe Wells.

Camping is not allowed (except in established campgrounds) in the yellow-shaded areas on this map.

http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/upload/Backcountry-Roads-Map.pdf
 
Speaking of Beatty, Nevada... Excellent breakfast joint. When we went there, it was FULL of locals, which I find to be a positive. No plastic accepted...

Mel's Diner
 
Per the Backcountry regs, our group looks like it going to be too large. Congrats to the planners on the trips popularity! Do we have backup plans/shall we break up into 2 groups?
 
Pitch said:
Per the Backcountry regs, our group looks like it going to be too large. Congrats to the planners on the trips popularity! Do we have backup plans/shall we break up into 2 groups?
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Sounds like it is only an issue if you are not in an established campground? Backcountry Camping - Death Valley National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

Which then confuses me because I thought camping was only allowed in established campgrounds.... I believe where we are going this type of camping is not allowed.

Camping is NOT allowed on the following "day use only" dirt roads:

Titus Canyon Road
Mosaic Canyon Road
West Side Road
Wildrose Road
Skidoo Road
Aguereberry Point Road
Cottonwood Canyon Road (first 8 miles only)
Racetrack Road (from Teakettle Junction to Homestake Dry Camp)
 
Meeting up with Brice to sort out the details. Given the size of the group we may run as two groups possibly 30 minutes to an hour apart. Will see when we get there. Camping group size will also be sorted as we get closer, in speaking with a friend in Cali who has done this, remote camping should not be an issue and since we are moving each day is less of an issue.

I'm really impressed that so many want to make the trek and look forward to enjoying this adventure with all of you.
 
Are there water re-supply spots at any of our stops or should we plan on being fully stocked for the whole trip? As of right now I am planning on taking 10 gallons and doing a top off on day 2 if possible. If refilling is an issue I will bring more water.
 
FWIW, 10 gallons should be plenty. We only used 9 gal for two people in 8 days of Baja.
 
Pitch said:
FWIW, 10 gallons should be plenty. We only used 9 gal for two people in 8 days of Baja.
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I agree with 10 gallons should be more than enough. Don't forget it will be cool during the day and cold at night.
 
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