Dalton Highway to Deadhorse Alaska

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X2 on stopping at Liard Springs, the drive out there from Highway is sweet, runs along river, lots of Moose and such, good fishing.
I did the road all the way to Inuvik/Tuk in 91', what an epic road trip, enjoy. You will come to the Artic Circle , back track a few hundred yards to the river crossing, there is a great place to camp right on the river.
 
Something for the bears and the mosquitos.
Wonder if I can make a flat bed to sleep on inside the truck if I need to spend the night.

Don't forget moose, wolves and meth heads. I think I'm going to pick up a 10mm and a chest holster.
Rifle wouldn't be a bad idea to have with.
Shotgun with some of the predator slugs would be a good idea just to have handy in camp.

For me the problem is getting through Canada. I know they have some strange firearm laws, I'll likely be shipping things like a rifle and a sidearm up ahead of time. I need to get clarification what is kosher for a shotgun for traveling through Canada as well.





Wasn't planning on sleeping in it, but I started designing this a few weeks to go on the flatbed of Chris's Mini for the trip. There's probably another 10-15 hours of design and tool-pathing left to go before this is ready to be sent to the cnc.
Probably build in some rails out of 80/20 to mount a roof top tent.
or, we just make it big enough to be slept in by one person. Right now the overall length is only 72" on the outside. 62" Wide, and something like 33" Tall.
If it gets much longer, carrying spare tires is going to be a challenge. Chris and I run the same tire size and bolt pattern, and the trailer matches. I figured on each of us carrying two spare tires.
Current Idea is to make it out of 1/2" plywood and fibreglass it inside and out.

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I'll be pulling my trailer with a tent on it. Matt will be pulling his trailer as well.
I haven't started on it yet, but I have ideas on building my own roof top tent, but with all hardsides, no canvas.
I really need to win the lottery so I can F around and build stuff for fun.


I even started on a logo for shirts for the trip. (Because I'm a frickin' dork)


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Going through Canada with a rifle and/or a shotgun is pretty simple. Just a form you fill out with serial # and a couple of specific rules regarding separately storing gun and ammo. Might have to separate a couple easy components I can’t remember exactly. Any type of handgun and related ammo you will have to ship. I believe it’s a big fine and they will confiscate and destroy it if they catch you with one at the border.
 
Going through Canada with a rifle and/or a shotgun is pretty simple. Just a form you fill out with serial # and a couple of specific rules regarding separately storing gun and ammo. Might have to separate a couple easy components I can’t remember exactly. Any type of handgun and related ammo you will have to ship. I believe it’s a big fine and they will confiscate and destroy it if they catch you with one at the border.

I was debating about just driving up to the border and talking with somebody there and seeing what exactly needs to happen. I don't know what they have limitations on. Things like barrel length, stock, capacity, pistol grip or caliber. I'd rather talk to somebody face to face too.

I've been eyeing up a M14 variant for years. I'm a fan of .308 and like having a good excuse to get a new toy. Any of my other rifles would be inadequate for some reason or another. Heck, I'd want a different shotgun. Mine is great for birds, but nothing else.
 
I was debating about just driving up to the border and talking with somebody there and seeing what exactly needs to happen. I don't know what they have limitations on. Things like barrel length, stock, capacity, pistol grip or caliber. I'd rather talk to somebody face to face too.

I've been eyeing up a M14 variant for years. I'm a fan of .308 and like having a good excuse to get a new toy. Any of my other rifles would be inadequate for some reason or another. Heck, I'd want a different shotgun. Mine is great for birds, but nothing else.
Karl,

Firearms in Canada​

When crossing the border into Canada, hunters must declare all firearms in their possession. Declared rifles and shotguns may be carried through Canada while in transit to Alaska. Certain types of handguns are not permitted in Canada under any circumstances. Other handguns may be carried into Canada under certain circumstances.

Declaring firearms involves filling out some paperwork, specifically Form 5589, the Non-Resident Firearm Declaration form. There is a $25 fee, payable in Canadian funds or with a credit card. The form is available at the border, or can be downloaded in advance from the Canadian Firearms Centre website (more details on that are offered at the end of the article). The form must be presented in triplicate and signed in front of a CBSA officer at the border (it is not possible to make photocopies at the border, so it will save time and effort to do some of the work in advance. Just be sure to wait until the border to sign in front of a customs officer).

According to the Canadian Firearms Centre, completing the paperwork also allows you to bring in ammunition for that firearm for personal use. Regarding ammunition, there have been many cases worldwide where American travelers arrive at a foreign destination with a single bullet somewhere in their luggage that they didn't realize was there, and they get into trouble. Don't use the same luggage for hunting as you do for other international travel.

Canadian law requires that officials confiscate any firearms, ammunition, and other weapons from persons crossing the border who deny having the items in their possession. Confiscated firearms, ammunition, and weapons are not returned. Possession of an undeclared firearm may result in arrest and imprisonment. Travelers are strongly advised to inspect all belongings thoroughly prior to travel to Canada to avoid the accidental import of firearms or ammunition.

Canada has three classes of firearms: non-restricted, restricted, and prohibited.

Non-restricted firearms include most ordinary hunting rifles and shotguns. These may be brought temporarily into Canada for sporting or hunting use during hunting season, use in competitions, in-transit movement through Canada, or personal protection against wildlife in remote areas of Canada. Anyone wishing to bring hunting rifles into Canada must be at least 18 years old; properly store the firearm for transport; and follow the declaration requirements.

Restricted firearms are primarily handguns. While they are not firearms, pepper spray, mace, and some knives also are included in this category. A restricted firearm may be brought into Canada, but an Authorization to Transport permit must be obtained in advance from a Provincial or Territorial Chief Firearms Officer. The permit allows a handgun to be in transit, for example to Alaska, but a permit would not be issued to someone simply vacationing in Canada.

Prohibited firearms include fully automatic, converted automatics and certain military style weapons, including weapons designed for civilian use. A full list of prohibited weapons is available on the Canadian Firearms Centre website. Prohibited firearms are not allowed into Canada. Handguns with a barrel length of less than 105 mm, about 4 1/8 inches, are completely prohibited, and .25 and .32 caliber handguns are prohibited.
 
I'd be doing lots of research for taking guns threw Canada. Print out all the laws you are complying with so some rouge agent can't just mess with you easily. That said I would not take a family heirloom as there is always a chance something could go south and you might not get it back. Considering the expense of the trip acquiring a beat up Mossberg or Remington 870 Express for trip makes cents to me. Have the numbers run and print that out also. I load my own Lyman cast sabot slug (540 gr) and do my own OO and #4 buckshot loads. I like the copper plated 18 OO and the buffered 41 pellets of #4 buck in 3" factory shells - will own camp.
 
It has been a few years since I drove the highway. Done it a lot in the past. In terms of Canada and firearms. Shotguns are no problem. Make sure you can correct an ill-informed customs jerk who tries to measure barrel length incorrectly. Had that happen a time or two. Semi auto rifles are a no no. Hand guns are a no no. "Hunting" rifles, no big deal. the USA standard of 16 inches for rifle barrel length does not carry over to Canada. 16 is too short.

Beaver Creek, either Canadian or US, has always been friendly, relaxed and helpful. In fact one time when it looked like I was gonna be stuck there all night waiting for a ride (long story) two different Canadian customs officers working the Beaver Creek station offered to put me up for the night. Another time, coming back into AK and my daughter was concerend about the new (at the time) passport requirements... the officer at the Alaskan station, spend half an hour chatting about dogs and Cruisers with me when he realized who I was (his father had purchased some parts from me a few weeks previously and somehow we made the connection).. he wound up never asking for any paperwork at all and waved us on through with a "drive safe" and a smile.

British Columbia crossings have never been a problem.

At the large border crossing between Montana and Alberta, the Canucks have been assholes to me on every encounter. Again, years ago.

One time, they tore everything in my truck out and spread it across the parking lot after finding a single rusty 22LR cartridge under the floor mat. it had been there for months. I did not even own a 22 at the time and I sure as hell did not have one with me. Another time they tried to tell me that my Factory Mossburg 18.5 inch barrell was a sawed off and only 17 inches long... because they were idiots and could not measure... and I guess playing power games, because in the end the put a 'tax seal" through the action and told my traveling companion to "not let him have it" and sent us down the road. No way they would have done that if it was in fact illegal!

Anyway... I'd suggest that you make your crossings into Canada as far west as you can... and don't even think about bringing any firearms through that they do not allow.

On a curious note... Wompom made a trip up and back earlier this year and SOMEHOW got a permit to bring a pisol with him up the highway. Even AK customs officers were surprised and amazed. I guess they had never heard of it either.

Don't obsess too much over firearms. I am a gun geek too and I carry every where every day. But you are more likely to get hit by lightning (twice!) than have an adverse animal encounter on the highway anywhere up here.

I have done the trip up and back in '40s and '55s. It is 1000000% nicer in an '80. ;)

As to the Dalton north of the Brooks Range... I can't speak to what it was like years ago, but as of July 2021, it was totally unremarkable. We blasted up and back in the Subaru with no issues and no concerns. They are working on the road constantly, grading and maintaining. a lot of times they will be putting water down with the operations and it can certainly get slimy. But nothing that is gonna damage a rig . At least not in 2021 Skeeters are the worst hazard!

Mark...
 
Don't obsess too much over firearms. I am a gun geek too and I carry every where every day. But you are more likely to get hit by lightning (twice!) than have an adverse animal encounter on the highway anywhere up here.


Obsessed isn't the right word. I'll be carrying a bunch of stuff I hope to not use.

We're planning a month to do our trip, so hopefully a fair amount of time off the highway. We're open to suggestions
 
@South Texas 97 We don't mean to hijack your thread.... I too plan on going on this trip in the spring of 2026 with @sogncab

I am not sure yet, what that looks like for our family.... as in, we may leave a couple weeks earlier and take the ferry up, and meet up with @sogncab in AK, then up to Prudhoe Bay...

Or... I drive up with them and the family flies up and just drives back with me...

I am building a trailer as well for this trip. And of course already cleaning up some things on the 40 for the trip.

Lets keep this thread going with places to stop along the way and sights to see!!
 
a trip like that is on my bucket list too. as a canadian i’m inclined to do the dempster hwy to tuk but prudhoe bay would be equally awesome. not sure if i want my 40 or 62 for the long trip though!

That would be a hard one to pass up for sure!!! If I was up there to go to Prudhoe, it seems on the way home I would want to hit Tuk as well!!
 
prudhoe bay to tuk is 1900 miles one way. that’s a lot of extra driving but would be epic! maybe i’ll do one in the 40 and go to the other in the 62!! 🤣

i drove to whitehorse through alberta and BC. that itself was a stunning drive and one i really want to do again. we didnt have time to go further north but it’s called to me ever since i saw the area. we came home through skagway and took the marine hwy back to prince rupert. that was also an excellent experience. but yes the arctic circle is a must on my list one way or the other!!
 
@South Texas 97
If your idea here becomes a group adventure I’d love to be involved. I’ve not done the Alcan or the Boreal North in a 40 and I think it would be a fun trip.

And maybe Cruise in to Wasilla and stop by Whatley’s (@Mark W) place for a free beer?


TANSTAAFL..OB!


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