Crusier Lean

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worshhim said:
UPDATE...called the tech guy at SOR and nothing...tighten u-bolts, grease shackles, dangle suspension (lift truck frame) and lubricate spring packs. For some reason, I don't feel like he really knew what the problem was or wanted to help solve it...again:bang:
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He hasn't a clue:frown:.....sorry
 
Any other suggestions? Anyone...
 
What about adding a leaf to the low side? or a helper spring?
 
You can search on the lean here on mud and get some good info.
I did an OME kit and have the lean. The stock springs AND the new ones were taller for the drivers side. From what Ive read there is a weight issue that requires more arch on the drivers side. I've also heard that the springs for US 60s are more arched because of the left hand driver set up, but that may just be speculation on a mudders part. My lean had decreased a little over the last 5K miles (1 year of driving on pavement) but I need to more wheeling to flex the springs to get them to settle in more.
Bryan
 
worshhim said:
What about adding a leaf to the low side? or a helper spring?
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I would try adding a spring if the lean is horrible....but i think that spring pack for the drivers side is suppose to be arched more than the passenger side. I am not sure if you added another spring if you would be higher on that side then.
 
I wonder if a local spring shop could re-arch one spring to be a bit taller. An add a leaf could make it sit right, but I don't think it would ride right with one spring more robust than the other. You might find it bucks over bumps or something.
 
Oh sorry- no it was the SOR guy that told me that, I used to live near their location and got my suspension there before shopping around- from what i've heard i wish i had spent a little more and gone for the OME springs, not bagging on SOR ,other than this they have only sold me quality parts.
I've got about a 3/4 lean on the driver front side, noticable when parked on level ground.
 
The cruiser lean is a great mystery for sure. Never heard a real authoritative explanation... Engine/Drive train torque? Offset engine? One thing for sure, OME is not infallable. I put my OME heavies on the correct way and had too much correction (Driver's side rear was 2 inches high). I swapped the rears to the reverse of what OME intended and it has leveled out considerably. THe only plausible factor was my spare tire on the rear bumper was on the passenger side. If you dink around with it long enough, you can get it level...but will it STAY level?? Only time will tell. Options: (a) switch rear springs (b) add a leaf to low side (c) lower the high side with a spacer (d) live with it.

It is too bad that SOR is totally clueless with the real world problem that we are having. The mining road story in AUS is a total bull s*** fabrication. What do you do when you drive the "other way" on the mining road...roll over???
 
RockDoc "I wonder if a local spring shop could re-arch one spring to be a bit taller. An add a leaf could make it sit right, but I don't think it would ride right with one spring more robust than the other. You might find it bucks over bumps or something."
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x2. I was thinking the same thing - great minds think alike. ;)
 
>What do you do when you drive the "other way" on the mining road...roll over???

not saying that story has any merit at all but driving the "other way" would be just like driving the "first way"...the driver side is toward the middle of the road, unless youre driving in reverse or something.

anyway i think the bit about cruiser lean is all kind of funny. ome may well be trying to compensate for something but my guess would be the body mounts wear out and make the body lean on the chassis so trying to level it with spring heights etc is just avoiding the real problem. personally mine leans slightly to the passenger side (the right side) but i dont go out and measure it and in fact if its driven and parked on level ground its pretty much level...you gotta remember your suspension doesnt necessarily always return to a neutral level stance everytime you stop the vehicle.

is there any official toyota mention of a "lean"? ive never seen one.

ome is not perfect, one good example of that is the crappy noise the springs make as you move around on them. maybe that would disappear with specialized lubrication but do they mention that anywhere or even address the noise? not that i know of. and ome couldnt even give me a consistent and logical story on how to lower the rear to sit flat other than to remove "a" spring from the pack...asking them which spring to remove seemed to bring only blank stares (over the phone).

my advice would be: if the cruiser leans either get used to it or find and replace collapsed body mounts unless youve really measured a lean from the ground to the chassis on level ground with the suspension somehow neutralized. and i guess make sure your springs are on properly but to me that seems like some voodoo answer and an attempt to compensate for some other problem like expired body mounts. and then its taken one step further by these fantasy "explanations" about crowned mining roads...thats darn funny that someone of any credibility would even try to pass that one through.

one love
jah bill
 
jb welda said:
ome is not perfect, one good example of that is the ****py noise the springs make as you move around on them. maybe that would disappear with specialized lubrication

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if the cruiser leans either get used to it
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Agreed, it's not something to fret about, a bit of lean means it's a 60 series.

The noise bothers me more than the lean, a good power wash and they're quiet for a few miles. A boatload of grease in the fittings to get it between the leaves works a bit longer but that's all. So be it.

;)
 
Well...while putting new rotors on my fronts last night, I decided to rotate the tires and lube the springs while I was at it. While I was under there, lubing the springs I noticed that the painted on part number of the springs in back are in fact different. I'll post some pics this afternoon. I think maybe SOR does in fact do something to compensate for the lean they just haven't got a clue that they do.
 
Maybe this is also an urban legend:hhmm:, but I heard it from a long-time Toyota tech and FJ-40 owner. At least for the 40s, he said they were only tied down on 1 side on the ship, thus preloading the suspension when it was new, and it never levelled itself out.

Shoot me down if this is crazy.:D
 
Here's the pics...

The first pic is of the Passenger Side, the second the Drivers Side. My question is that the "LH" part of the painted on number is on the passenger side...should that leaf be on the drivers side? Each side has the same number of leafs...I might switch them and see what it does. Any thoughts?
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I'm thinking that the "Right hand" is the passenger side, unless you're driving a JDM cruiser.
Did you install? If not, the shop that installed should redo. Confirm with SOR, providing anyone there knows!
 
89GASHOG said:
I'm thinking that the "Right hand" is the passenger side, unless you're driving a JDM cruiser.
Did you install? If not, the shop that installed should redo. Confirm with SOR, providing anyone there knows!
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Yes, it was me:doh:. And yes, I'll probably flip them, and NO SOR doesn't know anything about it apparently...:o
 
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