Coooool river crossing

[Ducks]

That was awesome. I don't fault the guy for taking the kid across. An excellent adventure. How many things are for certain, anyways? Americans have become such . My grandfather and father have survived much worse and were made the better because of it.

 

[Ducks]

if he wanted the pictures, he was impressed he made it... which means he had doubts..

Don't think that is entirely true. My uncle has been hunting chukar for over 20 years. He has no pictures of it. If someone happened to be by while he was hunting and took a picture, then I think he would like to have it. How many times have you crossed a river and be lucky enough to have someone on the other bank snapping your picture. It doesn't mean he doesn't do it often. It just means he doesn't do it often with people taking his picture.

 

[Ducks]

Or how about this person? Is he an idiot? Water coming over the hood and he doesn't have a snorkel.

Ever seen any of the stuff on the Alaska Cruiser Trek? Or Mark rescuing the truck from the river? Should they all be considered idiots as well? The guy in the slide show may very well been an idiot but it's awfully easy to sit in our armchairs and feel superior because we aren't doing that. The slide show is not that big of deal in comparison to what is usually posted on here and yet people are freaking out for some reason.

 

[cfdlighthouse]

That was awesome. I don't fault the guy for taking the kid across. An excellent adventure. How many things are for certain, anyways? Americans have become such pussies. My grandfather and father have survived much worse and were made the better because of it.

Respectfully I have to disagree. I have been a paramedic for 15 years and worked professionally as a firefighter paramedic in the 2nd largest fire department in virginia and have seen first hand what happens when stuff like that goes wrong. I have, as a rescue diver, had to pull someone out of their vehicle who drown while their vehicle was swept off a road just like that one. River crossings are one thing, but flood water is a different story and tragedy is often associated with people who try and do just what this guy did. Children when riding with a parent or family member don't have a choice but to hang on for the ride. When you risk the lives of 10 firefighters to rescue a mom and two kids from a tree they had to climb to keep from drowning after their car was swept away because there mom did not have the sense to not and try crossing the flooded road frustrates me. People often forget about the lives of the rescuers that all to often have to respond to save those who make poor choices.

Sorry for the run on, i love adventure and have taken my own stupid risks; and it does make you stronger to overcome adversity and survive challenges.

The slide show is not an adventure its just a poor decision that happened to work out. all i am saying is don't take an innocent child down with you!

 

[haryv]

cfdlighthouse, you said it right on.

Twenty years ago I was in Albuquerque NM serving out my time the millitary. I was driving to what looked like some kind of storm activity at the base of the monzono mountains. Usually tha time of year there is flash floods. Well we got hit by the 100 year flood. Imagine 4 inches of rain and three inches of hail comming down in 3 hours. Thats what hit me so hard I could not see the car in front of me at the intersection. Also imagine the stop light disapearing.


What happened as a result was some teenager did not use common sence to NOT cross the Arroyo that bridges two neightboorhoods in the hights area. She crossed, car was pushed sidways into the gardrail and it swept her car and gardrail down the arroyo. Several people tried to save her as her car floated down this naturally made arroyo. After the storm was over her car was found. It has been burried in sand up to the roof with a huge bolder in the driver seat.

Her body was found a mile away entangled in some bushes. Cost of damage at that time was over 2 million dollars in property damage.

As far as the cruiser is concerned while that river may have looked semi safe or not safe at all its not worth the risk. He probebly did not look up river if a storm was dumping copious amount of rain into the system and probebly did not stickaround long enough to see if the river flow rates were increasing or not.

So the fact that just because the river is flowing dont cross if you absolutly need to. Watch the river flow and height rates then use your own best judgment. Unfortunly this teen never did.

 

[Marc311]

Respectfully I have to disagree. I have been a paramedic for 15 years and worked professionally as a firefighter paramedic in the 2nd largest fire department in virginia and have seen first hand what happens when stuff like that goes wrong. I have, as a rescue diver, had to pull someone out of their vehicle who drown while their vehicle was swept off a road just like that one. River crossings are one thing, but flood water is a different story and tragedy is often associated with people who try and do just what this guy did. Children when riding with a parent or family member don't have a choice but to hang on for the ride. When you risk the lives of 10 firefighters to rescue a mom and two kids from a tree they had to climb to keep from drowning after their car was swept away because there mom did not have the sense to not and try crossing the flooded road frustrates me. People often forget about the lives of the rescuers that all to often have to respond to save those who make poor choices.

Sorry for the run on, i love adventure and have taken my own stupid risks; and it does make you stronger to overcome adversity and survive challenges.

The slide show is not an adventure its just a poor decision that happened to work out. all i am saying is don't take an innocent child down with you!

x3.

I don't fully disagree with Ducks that we have become a bit soft or that even a child can learn from a reasonable amount of danger and have respect for it. If he wanted to do it alone, so be it. But he should not have brought the child. And unlike the Alaskan adventures, he did not have anybody to help if something went wrong. If the road was washed out in the middle of that river, I would think the odds would be stacked toward the child drowning. There was no lesson learned there for the kid except to just try something and hope luck is with you.

 

[Ducks]

Respectfully I have to disagree. I have been a paramedic for 15 years and worked professionally as a firefighter paramedic in the 2nd largest fire department in virginia and have seen first hand what happens when stuff like that goes wrong. I have, as a rescue diver, had to pull someone out of their vehicle who drown while their vehicle was swept off a road just like that one. River crossings are one thing, but flood water is a different story and tragedy is often associated with people who try and do just what this guy did. Children when riding with a parent or family member don't have a choice but to hang on for the ride. When you risk the lives of 10 firefighters to rescue a mom and two kids from a tree they had to climb to keep from drowning after their car was swept away because there mom did not have the sense to not and try crossing the flooded road frustrates me. People often forget about the lives of the rescuers that all to often have to respond to save those who make poor choices.

Sorry for the run on, i love adventure and have taken my own stupid risks; and it does make you stronger to overcome adversity and survive challenges.

The slide show is not an adventure its just a poor decision that happened to work out. all i am saying is don't take an innocent child down with you!

Well said. I agree with you. It wasn't an adventure but was stupid. You have changed my mind. Thank you. I do get frustrated with people that are constantly saying you can't do something or are a fool for taking a risk. This specific risk was not calculated but foolhardy.

Cheers.

 

[cruiser88]

Or how about this person? Is he an idiot? Water coming over the hood and he doesn't have a snorkel.

Ever seen any of the stuff on the Alaska Cruiser Trek? Or Mark rescuing the truck from the river? Should they all be considered idiots as well? The guy in the slide show may very well been an idiot but it's awfully easy to sit in our armchairs and feel superior because we aren't doing that. The slide show is not that big of deal in comparison to what is usually posted on here and yet people are freaking out for some reason.

I agree that is why i said its normal around here but keep the kids out it till they are adults and make their onw choices.

 

[cruiser88]

Oh yea my wife was just telling me or reminding me out a guy or family that lost their kids over a stunt similer to this one but the rig rolled over .

 

[rove_mcanus]

this isn't so stupid. there's plenty of traction, no chance of the back end floating (it's a cab chassis) and the water isn't overly deep. probably 4.5 feet or there abouts at a rough estimate (the bow wave will make it look deeper)

The boat on the back was an advantage. if something went wrong, then the man and the boy had an alternative mode of transport

the only thing different i would have done is approached from the opposite side of the road, considering the direction the water was flowing.

anyone with a bit of water crossing experience will know that you only run into trouble when you loose momentum, not likely to happen on an asphalt road. currents aren't that bad either

 

[rove_mcanus]

YouTube - land rover driving through VERY DEEP water
check this out.

drivers view of flood water driving in a landrover (with a snorkel though).

you can see the driver s***ting himself when the camera starts to shake

 

[GunnyE]

In Arizona during the summer we have flooding in normally dry rivers. So many people try crossing and end up getting stuck that the state has passed a law against entering when flooded, it is known as the "stupid motorist" law

 

[DblTap]

Nice party trick, but he deserves a public kick in his phucking nuts for taking a child across RUNNING water like that.......his kid is a probable fatality if they get washed over, especially with that yellow water parachute attached to the back.

I agree wholeheartedly! What a frigging dumb@$$!!

 

[Esther]

The guy. Moron. Yeah we do that kind of stuff in the back country for sport and therefore expect the dangers involved so we take precautions. This clown was on a paved road that had a bridge. The bridge itself was 7 meters above water at normal levels. Without checking, he drove into the river and because he could see the current change where the guardrails are, he assumed the rest of the bridge was still there. Currents on a known river can be deceiving because of so much junk in the water at any given time. The current change could have been caused by junk caught in what remained of the bridge.
The Kid. There is a fine line between teaching a child how to take a risk and teaching them how to make stupid decisions.
The boat. If it did not break loose from the truck, and if the water was deeper, it could have caused the truck to loose traction and be swept away.
The result: yeah, he got across. The kid is dumber, people who hate 4X4's have a another example to cite, and some other moron who saw this will try the same but without the same outcome.
J

 

[JoeCanadian]

i'd do it, just not with the kids. and if i lost my rig i would go back and get it too. diesel's work fine after sitting under water for 9 days, even longer i bet.

sweet move to the man with the ballz

 

[FJ60_cruiser]

That's a cool river crossing!!! I've never crossed without an inspection first!! but if you see the pics and details it seems like the river didn't have to much current! see the side of the truck and it doesn't seems to be be a strong current knocking on the side of the truck.

great pics!! I've seen better ones here in Venezuela... ..:: Bienvenidos a Fun Race 4x4 2005 ::..

 

[vipergrhd]

there is definitely a loose nut behind the wheel in my opinion

 

[motoloco]

DAM, I cant see the clip, nothing when I click the link. I want to see it!

 

[gdtrfb]

seems like it turned out ok, if not, would it not have been natures way of thinning the herd?

 

[Gappy]

seems like it turned out ok, if not, would it not have been natures way of thinning the herd?

i would actually liken it more to suicide.