Caster-Camber Hybrid setup

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This is more or less a follow up to a thread started by bjowett (thanks) a while back about using the IFS camber setup to make an adjustable caster setup for the front control arms. I finally got around to doing this with an extraordinary amount of assistance from Rick C. (many,many thanks). I tried at least 5 times to get the IFS from SoCal Toyota guys that had cut it off for a SAS but always seemed to never close the deal so the plates were fabricated from scratch.

Since I already had the front control arms off and was moving to Christo's 6" springs I went ahead and had the rear hole machined out to accept the OME caster correction bushing. This idea was floated to me by D. McRae (thanks). Most of this was a "no loose" experiment since I knew/know that if it all went to crap I could call Mr. Slee for a set of his arms. I guess I just wanted to know how this approach would work. So I'm not advising this to anyone, just wanted to inform the curious.

I'm going to get it into an alignment shop within the next week (after taxes!) and will post the results of how the caster is with this setup.

General impressions is that it rides very much like it did with the 850/863 setup with just the OME caster correction bushings in the front two spots. Very predictable and stable. I was able to run the 6" lift with 315/70R17 BFG ATs and stock gears at a little over 100 mph (GPS truthed) with no worries - well aside from the obvious worries...

I think ideally one should go with Christo's plates or just bjowett's caster-camber slot set up but maintain the OEM bushings. The OME ones are noticeably stiffer - great on the road but not off. All of this has me convinced to start saving for a 5-link front (actionjackson let me know when the group buy is ready!).

Hopefully this will save someone from pissing off their significant other by experimenting with pointless, excruciatingly slow modifications.

Mike R.
 
Hey Mike,

Lookin good, amigo! - Can you send me more pics through private email?

Also, its a lot easier to hit 100 mph, without the sponge:D

Joe
 
Phil - I'm running the stock drivelines although I've got a double-cardon front one sitting on a bench. I've got Christo's adjustable upper rear control arms and slightly longer lower rears. No vibrations, weirdness, etc.

Joe this one is for you - the Death Sponge! Will send you more pics.
 
Mike, cool fab job. DMC is a great guy, wish he was setup here in the USA.

Joe= fastest. driver. ever.
 
James,

Just like to lead, my friend
 
I just want your truck Joe :D
I should also say, Joe=best. spotter. ever.

What's the death sponge? DOn't tell me that is a ghetto-fab TRD air filter...
 
FirstToy said:
What's the death sponge? DOn't tell me that is a ghetto-fab TRD air filter...

Um, that might resemble a certain item that someone may have left in the intake housing between the air filter and turbo inlet. And upon completion of turbo install that item may have been sucked into the turbo inlet and blocked it nearly completely. That then would have behaved like a blown turbo. That may have happened to someone...
 
flexed out

Well I found one of those perfect spots that flexed out the front and rear suspension simultaneously today. Thought it would be nice to show how the front behaved with the control arms modified like they are. Right now the shocks - OME L's - are the limiting factor. This is also a cheesy reason to show some pics...
 
Mike,

Not to de-rail this but what's up with that socal run... How about a 909 run, everthing west of you is shut down still.

Nice work on the arms!

-Matt
 
front control arms flex

Matt - let's do a run!

Here's the front arms trying to show how little the front OME bushings flex. You can notice that all of the flex is coming from the rear mounts - which are OME too. I'm going to try this again without shocks to see how much more it is willing to move.
 
Mike

What’s the deal with those super, long, front control arm bolts?

I have a couple of real questions: is the right bump stop touching? What did the rear OME bushings look like with that much torsion on them and was there enough room side to side for the control arm to twist? Considering that the rear space is .25 inch narrower than stock with the addition of the two plates added to the inside of the bracket.
 

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