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Front coil over goes right through the factory mount to a new upper mount. All upper and lower (front and rear) control arms are in factory locations.
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Front coil over goes right through the factory mount to a new upper mount. All upper and lower (front and rear) control arms are in factory locations.
Awesome!, It's very cool that you guys managed to keep all links stock. Especially ball joints!.
Do you gain any extra down or up travel from this rear setup or is it mainly for increased oil volume, tuning and damping ?
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I think they are 3" over stock but 5" total. 3 is the max allowed by the rules.Correct, its a 3-4" spacer, I'd have to measure again to recall
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It all depends on how far you air it out. Aside from one very awful exception, we rarely jump the truck, if so it's very controlled. Any suspension will 'g out' if pushed hard enough. When it does happen it feels like every single joint, from your toes to the top of your spine, compresses and rattles you pretty hard. Obviously we do our best to avoid those as much as possible. I had the opportunity to ride with Bryce Menzies in his TT a couple of summers ago. The suspension was absolutely insane. 4' whoops at 110mph. However, even it ran out of travel at one point and I just laughed thinking to myself that even TTs have limits. They monitor their shock oil temps real time and pull back when needed to keep the shocks working properly.
As @cruiseroutfit mentioned above. We definitely ran out of talent (actually poor communication) a few year ago at the Mint. Landed on the flat, compressed our motor mounts enough to knock a huge hole in the oil pan, and compressed my spine a fair amount too. I've attached a pic. The good news is people were started to line up to watch the unlimited race, so our worst ever DNF was witnessed by about 2k people.
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We get a little extra travel but it has much more to do with the latter. A local friend use to tune for a TT and he comes with us for our testing sessions. It's amazing how dialed we can get the truck with his help. I'm the poor guy that has to drive during those sessions. Dozens of passes at 10/10ths through known terrain. No fun at all
. We shoot video, combined with seat of the pants feedback, to tune the shocks. Also, we do run limiting straps front and rear to protect CV and u-joints from extreme angles as we can deal with slightly less travel far easier than failures during a race.We get a little extra travel but it has much more to do with the latter. A local friend use to tune for a TT and he comes with us for our testing sessions. It's amazing how dialed we can get the truck with his help. I'm the poor guy that has to drive during those sessions. Dozens of passes at 10/10ths through known terrain. No fun at all
Thats awesome,
Do you guys use a fuel cell or the factory fuel tank ?
They use a fuel cell :
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Most sanctioning bodies require that for this type of racing.
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There have been a handful of mentions and a couple threads about specific races but we figure it was time to really document a bit more about the vehicle, how we came to race it, how we inherited the build, the things we have changed, how and what we prep and replace before each race, etc...
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Most sanctioning bodies require that for this type of racing.
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We ran a local race over the weekend and got lumped in with 2 Class 8 unlimited truck and 2 6100 trucks. We ended up taking second in our 'class' behind one of the Spec TTs. Once class 8 blew a motor, the other got stuck for over an hour and the we somehow beat the other 6100, they finished about 40 mins behind us. Not sure if they had mechanical issues or stuck. The course has lots of dunes so 2wd rigs can struggle.
The race was 5, 40 mile laps and each of us took a turn behind the wheel and we gave our chase team members a chance to co-drive and spend some time in the truck. Somewhere at the end of lap one, start of lap 2 we hit something really hard and bent our low control arm. It messed with the alignment (which made the high speed sections a bit interesting) but also clearanced a shock issue we had. King had clocked our shock slightly and the bypass tubes were rubbing on our UCA on the passenger side. Once the rock mangled our lower it also moved the shock enough to avoid further rubbing damage.
We also had our started quit on us. @cruiseroutfit and I had been through this on his own personal rig a few years back so we knew how to jump the starter directly. While the truck was off we filled the tank (plan was to do it after lap 3) then got her started using a lithium jump pack. We didn't shut her off the rest of the race. We have a lot of work to do before the 1000 but overall we treated this race like a testing session and now we know we have some things to get done, hopefully a new wrap and we'll be back in Baja.
The race was 5, 40 mile laps and each of us took a turn behind the wheel and we gave our chase team members a chance to co-drive and spend some time in the truck. Somewhere at the end of lap one, start of lap 2 we hit something really hard and bent our low control arm. It messed with the alignment (which made the high speed sections a bit interesting) but also clearanced a shock issue we had. King had clocked our shock slightly and the bypass tubes were rubbing on our UCA on the passenger side. Once the rock mangled our lower it also moved the shock enough to avoid further rubbing damage.
We also had our started quit on us. @cruiseroutfit and I had been through this on his own personal rig a few years back so we knew how to jump the starter directly. While the truck was off we filled the tank (plan was to do it after lap 3) then got her started using a lithium jump pack. We didn't shut her off the rest of the race. We have a lot of work to do before the 1000 but overall we treated this race like a testing session and now we know we have some things to get done, hopefully a new wrap and we'll be back in Baja.
Out of curiosity, did that LCA hit move the mounts / tabs on the crossmember?
If I remember right rules dont let you guys reinforce any of that stuff but surprisingly they look like they are where they are supposed to be from the angle of the photo!
If I remember right rules dont let you guys reinforce any of that stuff but surprisingly they look like they are where they are supposed to be from the angle of the photo!
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Yes it bent the mounts. We'll have to figure out a repair. You're correct we can't reinforce according to the rules. We've been lucky so far that this is our first real damage.
Ah bummer, I get that they have that rule to keep people from building extra cages on things in the name of "reinforcement" but having gusseting for mounts, or limited reinforcement would sure help situations like this.
When I crew chiefed a SCCA rally team for a few years we could do some basics but nothing crazy and it sure helped the production cars live a little longer.
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It would be so simple to do and make so much sense but they want stock to remain stock whenever possible.
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Sometimes you just have to go inverted to get the job done. In this case our new master cylinder boots have to go on after the cylinders are mounted. Go @canguroracing
We are racing this weekend!
We are racing this weekend!
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We use to do a lot more back when I had a house. An average race we'd have about 200gb of video. The 1000 would be closer to 500gb so lots of data and I had a machine that I used to edit. When I moved to an RV full time it became much harder to do it so I stopped editing and just clipping into 30 mins segments. We still post a fair amount of video on social media but not so much youtube.
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X2 Good Luck gentleman 