Can you run 33" tires on LX570 20" wheels?

[SWUtah]

Mine is a 2011 LX570. Unfortunately I cannot speak on the LX and LC Fitment being the same. However, I imagine if you run LX wheels you will not have a problem. If you go with other widths or offsets you might run into issues.

That's great, mines a 2011 LX570 Lexus OEM wheels. Can you post a pic?

 

[crazy1323]

I can take some other pictures later, but this is all I had on my iPad.

 

[SWUtah]

Looks good with the 33" tires. So no rubbing at "N" setting? Think dealer would try and give you trouble on any warranty issues based on running a 33" tire versus stock 31.2"?

 

[crazy1323]

No rubbing on N. Now I did adjust the AHC sensors to make the front about 3/4" to 1" higher on the N setting. I didn't do this because it was rubbing. I just wanted to level it out.

I have no even noticed any rubbing on Lo, I have to put it in low to get in my buildings parking garage and make some turns with the wheels fully turned.

I can't really see any issues with the dealer. They. Have to explicitly prove that the larger tires caused an issue in order to deny warranty coverage. I believe the legislation that supports this is the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

 

[SWUtah]

Thanks Crazy you have been very helpful

 

[jwestpro]

No rubbing on N. Now I did adjust the AHC sensors to make the front about 3/4" to 1" higher on the N setting. I didn't do this because it was rubbing. I just wanted to level it out.

Hey, regarding AHC, I know you can lower (but only very slow like for garages) or raise it (again for slower driving where more ground clearance is needed) but is it just the 1 level up and 1 level down and is there any way to lower just a little for higher speed driving? For example a Range Rover will lower at certain higher speed, depending on the year model. Similar with 2001 Audi Allroad where the user could ride lower if desired at full speeds. It has 5 levels with the middle 3 being user selectable on demand, the 2nd and 3rd being fine at highway speeds, highest only up to certain mid speed though.

 

[crazy1323]

I'll have to look back in the AHC literature to get exact details, but the AHC actually has 5 height settings. There is the user selectable Lo, N, hi and then there is a medium low which is activated at highway speeds. Lastly there is extra high that can only be engaged automatically if the vehicle becomes stuck with CRAWL engaged.

Also, even though the selector only has dampening levels of sport, normal, and comfort, the stepper motors controlling the dampening actually have 16 positions that the computer constantly adjusts.

It is a pretty amazing system.

Hey, regarding AHC, I know you can lower (but only very slow like for garages) or raise it (again for slower driving where more ground clearance is needed) but is it just the 1 level up and 1 level down and is there any way to lower just a little for higher speed driving? For example a Range Rover will lower at certain higher speed, depending on the year model. Similar with 2001 Audi Allroad where the user could ride lower if desired at full speeds. It has 5 levels with the middle 3 being user selectable on demand, the 2nd and 3rd being fine at highway speeds, highest only up to certain mid speed though.

 

[jwestpro]

Cool, thanks. Curious if you can choose either up or down of any degree while at highway speeds. Sounds like you can choose "HI" but I would assume it automatically drops if over 30-40 mph. Similar for "LO" where I'm sure it must raise up if you go over 10 ish mph.

I have an override system in my lr3 which is really sweet. It provides -20, +30 or +50 mm to whatever factory setting is current (low, normal, high) where "normal" is the highway height or any time over 30 mph. The cool uses of the system are -20mm for twisting mtn roads at those highway speeds, +30 for sort of rougher double track where a little speed and height are nice or deepish snow, +50 is best for when already in "high" and you know you need more height for break-over angles or other obstacles. This aftermarket system takes a minute or so to engage whereas the factory control lever is instant so I usually go ahead and choose the +30 or +50 leaving a nice gravel road so that when something big comes up it's faster to bump up using the factory lever.

My reason for posting this stuff in the thread was for the idea that LX drivers could maybe get away with a larger tire than a LC 200 because usually the larger tire does not give trouble while rolling at highway speeds because the clearance issues with 33" + are during turning tight (slower by default) and during articulation off road (very slow by default).

Plainly put, it seems AHC should give you the "lift" needed to use large tires during the situations when larger tires get tight on clearances.

Any chance you know the ground clearance at your front engine guard and rear differential when in "normal" and "high"? The most useful thing would be any way to engage the "extra" high on demand rather than the vehicle having to "feel" stuck or high centered. This is done by it sensing less pressure in the dampers I'm guessing. My air suspension does the same thing. This aftermarket kit is the work around.

 

[SWUtah]

Ok mines a 2011 LX570, 20" wheels so it looks like I'm good to go for any 275/60/20 tire as a Pmetrix. I am 98% paved road and 2% graded dirt road and 98% snow free driving. LTX MS2 would be the right tie fr me but the AT tire might look better??

 

[Overlake]

Cool, thanks. Curious if you can choose either up or down of any degree while at highway speeds. Sounds like you can choose "HI" but I would assume it automatically drops if over 30-40 mph. Similar for "LO" where I'm sure it must raise up if you go over 10 ish mph.

I have an override system in my lr3 which is really sweet. It provides -20, +30 or +50 mm to whatever factory setting is current (low, normal, high) where "normal" is the highway height or any time over 30 mph. The cool uses of the system are -20mm for twisting mtn roads at those highway speeds, +30 for sort of rougher double track where a little speed and height are nice or deepish snow, +50 is best for when already in "high" and you know you need more height for break-over angles or other obstacles. This aftermarket system takes a minute or so to engage whereas the factory control lever is instant so I usually go ahead and choose the +30 or +50 leaving a nice gravel road so that when something big comes up it's faster to bump up using the factory lever.

My reason for posting this stuff in the thread was for the idea that LX drivers could maybe get away with a larger tire than a LC 200 because usually the larger tire does not give trouble while rolling at highway speeds because the clearance issues with 33" + are during turning tight (slower by default) and during articulation off road (very slow by default).

Plainly put, it seems AHC should give you the "lift" needed to use large tires during the situations when larger tires get tight on clearances.

Any chance you know the ground clearance at your front engine guard and rear differential when in "normal" and "high"? The most useful thing would be any way to engage the "extra" high on demand rather than the vehicle having to "feel" stuck or high centered. This is done by it sensing less pressure in the dampers I'm guessing. My air suspension does the same thing. This aftermarket kit is the work around.

In theory sure. In reality far from sweet. It's aftermarket. It voids your warranty not that you care since yours is well out of it. Range Rover air suspension seems to have a mind of its own even brand spanking new. It's complex and not designed with durability and reliability in mind. You raise it up and down to often it overheats. You lower it too much and it rides like crap.

 

[Rando Kuruza]

Ok mines a 2011 LX570, 20" wheels so it looks like I'm good to go for any 275/60/20 tire as a Pmetrix. I am 98% paved road and 2% graded dirt road and 98% snow free driving. LTX MS2 would be the right tie fr me but the AT tire might look better??

On the side profile you won't really be able to tell the difference as far as looks go... For a smooth ride, a quite ride, longevity, and gas mileage performance MS2 is the choice IMO!!! just my 2 cents

 

[SWUtah]

On the side profile you won't really be able to tell the difference as far as looks go... For a smooth ride, a quite ride, longevity, and gas mileage performance MS2 is the choice IMO!!! just my 2 cents

Thanks
So I might as well go with the 275/55/20 M/S2's - 31.9" - since they will have the same side wall look and be closer in size to my spare which is OEM Michelins 285/50/20 - 31.2". Hate to buy a new spare, been told LX will compensate for a few miles until you can get to a tire repair shop, without hurting the LX.

 

[Rando Kuruza]

I would! The side wall is a littler different on the AT2 but from 5 feet away you can hardly tell. As far as the spare, a few miles to the tire shop is fine... Just look at all the cars with their tiny doughnuts spares... The only reason for the full size spare... If your are out in the boonies, and you need a "real tire" to get you home. Tires spin at different speeds all the time, every time we take a turn for example. It's the idiots that drive with their little doughnuts for 3 months that really mess things up. Rule of thumb with tires though is after about 6 years consider replacing it regardless of tread, rubber dries out. After 10 years 100% replace the tire regardless of tread.

I like to do 5 new tires, do a 5 tire rotation everytime and put the spare into the mix, that way I am always getting a fresh spare when I replace my tires. It extends the mileage out of the set since you are throwing in a fifth tire. Stupid fact!!! They only do mileage warranty for 4 tires though... Lame!!

MS2's 70,000 mile wear warranty awesome!!!

 

[SWUtah]

These Dunlop SP Sport 5000 M's that the dealer installed are well "Dunflops" I plan on just driving them for a few thousand miles not spending any money to rotate and the minute they sound or look bad I will go to Discount tire and have the MS2's installed. Already set the stage with the wife

 

[mtnracer]

Bringing this thread back to life...

Is anyone running 305-50R20s on an LX570 with OEM rims? If so, any rubbing anywhere.

I know Arich has them on his LC but I'd love to hear from the LX crowd.

 

[arich]

I had them on LX570 wheels at first, no issues. 305-50-20 Michelin Latitudes.
Then I moved those tires to OEM BBS Tundra wheels and because they have a higher offset they run a little bit.
I also ran the 275-60-20 MS2s on the LX wheels, they don't rub if you bend the mudflaps a little. These tires look Awesome!!!!
Shameless plug, the LX wheels are sold and the other wheels and tires are all available. PM me. All practically new. (ALL SOLD)
I simply love the TRD wheels.

 

[mtnracer]

Thank Arich. The LX wheels arrived yesterday and look beautiful. Nice packing job too.

I know you had the 305s on your LC but I'm wondering on the fitment on an LX570 in "low" mode. I guess an LC with height control would be similar.

Also, is your LC lifted with the Koni Raids?

 

[arich]

Forgot it was you that got the LX wheels from me. Post some pics.
I don't think I would go with those MS2 tires if you use the lowest height setting. Might rub a little, 275-55-20 would be my vote with that tire. I know that's been talked about here.

I honestly don't know about the 305 latitudes. They are huge on a stock truck. Drive up from FL to NY, you can try them on.

The MS2s are the best highway tires I've owned.

 

[SWUtah]

Thank Arich. The LX wheels arrived yesterday and look beautiful. Nice packing job too.

I know you had the 305s on your LC but I'm wondering on the fitment on an LX570 in "low" mode. I guess an LC with height control would be similar.

Also, is your LC lifted with the Koni Raids?

I would be more concerned that the 305's have a lower load rating the the OEM 285's. Jmho

 

[arich]