Cable Locker Conversion

[SUMOTOY]

Not rocket science

Guys:
This conversion should be easy hardware wise. Use a long ebrake cable (pick your brand) use a throttle stop or a ebrake cable stop, or drill a hole in a bracket.

Me, I'd run the cable direct like I have pic'd below, forget the cam/rod dea;, my experience with cable/cams on my 4Runner was they rust all the time.

Use the stock pin at the actuator itself, and mount the throttle stop where the cam mounts in the above pic.

That part is easy, the lever system may take some time to construct, but it's not difficult.

Scott Justusson

 

[bjowett]

Levers that work well for cable lockers... Toyota 4WD Van transfer case shifter. Detents keep the shifter and cable where you left it. The twin stick is from a Suzuki KingQuad... also has dentents.

Here's the cable locker from my old Turbo 4-Runner. This would work for the front locker on an 80.

Bowden cables are a push/pull, some ebrake cables are not of this design, and require a spring to get em' to retract. Automatic shft cables from Toyota vehicles work very well for this... don't try to buy em' new, though... $$$.

 

[SUMOTOY]

Levers that work well for cable lockers... Toyota 4WD Van transfer case shifter. Detents keep the shifter and cable where you left it. The twin stick is from a Suzuki KingQuad... also has dentents..

Nice to see real life look like the drawing Brian! Shifter cable works. The problem I always envisioned with shifter cables was what to do with the 'extra' unless you find a specific app that works (as you did). Choke cable also words well (many truck apps have detents in them as well), as does hood release cable.

Stock hardware isn't hard to find. The pin on the dog clutch arm can be used with just about any cable, and the bracket for the cable stop can be fabbed or sourced pretty easy. If you look at this from the standpoint of eliminating the cam arrangement, the system should be fairly easy to design and install.

SJ

 

[BRKLYN1]

I think those s***ers may be over kill for the task. It cant take that much force to move the actuator bar, or the teeth the worm engage would strip. I think a much smaller cable leaver can be used?

 

[SUMOTOY]

I think those s***ers may be over kill for the task. It cant take that much force to move the actuator bar, or the teeth the worm engage would strip. I think a much smaller cable leaver can be used?

Way overkill using the shifter! Normally if the teeth are aligned the effort shouldn't be more than a couple pounds of force. The early audi design used two levers on either side of the ebrake. Total length from lever point to end of lever was about 4-5in with maybe 2 in on the cable side.

I'd be concerned only with the length of travel required, not the force.

SJ

 

[bjowett]

Overkill...? Remove that word from your vocabulary! Overkill gets you home at the end of the day.

I don't recall the early UrQ units... been a while since I drove one. And stop talking about Audi's! You are making me miss my 01 S4 Avant.

The KingQuad shifter might be perfect (smaller)... I'm waiting for a couple of cables to try with it, though it will be shifting the Orion t-case.

 

[BRKLYN1]

I got the same problem on my truck and i developed a fix that is cheap and easy (50$ and 4 hours) and is proven by two years of use. See it https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=108306

If you need the files, i can send it to you, just give me your e-mail adress.

what about those files? I PM'ed you my email? brklyn14x4@aol.com it will save me much time that can be used writing a program. functional Bling is on the horizon.

thanks Joe

 

[IronYuppy]

I had the Downey cable upgrade in the '97 elocker 4Runner diff I had in my '92 4Runner. Not sure if it's exactly the same part, as I don't have a Downey catalogue handy.

It was a PITA to install, but worked fine once installed. I replaced the cable with a stainless steel cable and some plated grade 8 hardware I had left-over from another project, so I didn't have any corrosion problems. Sold the truck last year and the new owner is still using the cable-locker with no problems (although by the looks of the back-end of my former truck, he should try using the rearview mirrors, too).

 

[Blue77FJ40]

I had the Downey cable upgrade in the '97 elocker 4Runner diff I had in my '92 4Runner. Not sure if it's exactly the same part, as I don't have a Downey catalogue handy.

It was a PITA to install, but worked fine once installed. I replaced the cable with a stainless steel cable and some plated grade 8 hardware I had left-over from another project, so I didn't have any corrosion problems. Sold the truck last year and the new owner is still using the cable-locker with no problems (although by the looks of the back-end of my former truck, he should try using the rearview mirrors, too).

It is not the same part. The idea is the same, but mounting is different.

 

[BRKLYN1]

do you have the Downy on an 80?