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Does anyone know what these bumpers weigh?

Tjm t3
arb sahara
arb combo
ecb big tube bar

I recently bought a 04 landcruiser, and think the front end could really use something to make it look like the vehicle it is.
I am hearing that some of these bumpers while they look great are weighing in over 200 lbs compared to the 40 lbs stock bumper.
Is anyone making a carbon fiber bumper? It seems like the obvious solution, I have a 33 ft carbon fiber mast on my Nacra 20 that weighs only 28lbs, plus carbon fiber is 6 times stronger than steel.
 
Sean04100 said:
Does anyone know what these bumpers weigh?

Tjm t3
arb sahara
arb combo
ecb big tube bar

I recently bought a 04 landcruiser, and think the front end could really use something to make it look like the vehicle it is.
I am hearing that some of these bumpers while they look great are weighing in over 200 lbs compared to the 40 lbs stock bumper.
Is anyone making a carbon fiber bumper? It seems like the obvious solution, I have a 33 ft carbon fiber mast on my Nacra 20 that weighs only 28lbs, plus carbon fiber is 6 times stronger than steel.


If I remember correctly the TJM T3C weighs 80lbs. Sure...anything is possible if you have enough money!!! But that is why I bought the TJM :D
 
Carbon fiber may be stronger than steel for certain applications, but I would prefer steel, or in my case aluminum up front or out back.
 
The shipping weight (incl the pallet) for my ARB combo-bar w/winch mount was 160 lbs.

I think the bar+mount was actually more like 110-120 lbs though, but you would almost double that with a winch mounted up-front. :eek:
 
Sean04100 said:
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Is anyone making a carbon fiber bumper? It seems like the obvious solution, I have a 33 ft carbon fiber mast on my Nacra 20 that weighs only 28lbs, plus carbon fiber is 6 times stronger than steel.

Another comment on the carbon fiber vs. steel or AL question:

A good grade of steel, done correctly for the application, has the nice property of being extremely tough and variously malleable, as well as hard and extremely strong - if your steel bumper strikes something hard and immoveable, it will perhaps gouge it, or maybe even bend it a little, but it will not break or be significantly weakened (unless bent a LOT or bent back and forth like a coat hanger until the repeated plastic deformation weakens it.)

AL is pretty good in these respects, although not nearly as good as steel - especially in the area of fatigue strength and ultimate strength (psi), along with hardness of course.

Carbon fiber composites are different. They are not very hard, so if you hit a hard something with a carbon fiber bumper, its gonna chew it up like a wet cigar. Bye bye integrity and strength.

Now, if you want strength, hardness, and toughness, but don't want the weight of steel, then you want titanium. That's what you need - a titanium bumper. Anyone make one? (The only drawback may be cost...)
 
Your cant beat steels price.
Use these principles when buying aftermarket parts;
form, function & fit. If it meets all of these then it’s probably good. But if cost in no object then have a Ti bumper made.
The only thing carbon fiber has is weight & looks. The rest sucks.
Mytwocentsworth.
DMX
 
Carbon is very strong/stiff in certain shapes, like tubes, etc. (they are used as spinnaker poles), but if they receive a sharp impact on the side by a heavy load (eg, pole under load is hit in the side, etc.), they catastrophically snap in two. IMHO, a carbon bumper would offer no more protection than the stock plastic one. At any rate, if you want lightweight, strong, and impact resilience, I'd say go w/ bullbar made of 3/2.5 titanium (hey, I didn't say cheap!). It has superior fatigue resistance, and springs back when loaded and the load is released. Otherwise, for a compromise between weight and strength, aluminum (there are different grades; my hunch is aluminum for bumpers isn't of a high grade).
 

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