Blown Head Gasket - Chicago

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

Joined
Nov 9, 2012
Threads
2
Messages
5
Hi all,

I recently purchased a 1989 FJ 62 with 170k miles. Bought the truck in California with the intent of taking it to Chicago. Turns out it has a blown head gasket. I took it to one shop who said it could be fixed for ~$2k, but recommended that I put a new rebuilt engine in it. Any recommendations on next steps here, whether to fix the gasket issue or replace the engine? Any recommendations on a reliable source for a crate motor? Or recommendations on reliable shops in the Chicagoland area to bring the truck in to? Appreciate any advice... thanks in advance.
 
Are you comfortable wrenching on your own vehicle? If so, download the 3FE FSM (https://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-parts/610994-40-50-60-80-series-fsm-hell-price.html), buy the "valve job" gasket kit from a Toyota dealer (CruiserDan on the forum here gives a mud discount, others do as well I believe), and dig in.

It isn't a hard job, just takes a while. The FSM lays it all out, even if you don't think you are up to it, download the FSM and have a look through. While the head is off, it would be a good idea to have it checked out to see if it needs attention. If you take it on yourself, I would guess the total cost would be in the $300-$600 range.
 
Hi all,

I recently purchased a 1989 FJ 62 with 170k miles. Bought the truck in California with the intent of taking it to Chicago. Turns out it has a blown head gasket. I took it to one shop who said it could be fixed for ~$2k, but recommended that I put a new rebuilt engine in it. Any recommendations on next steps here, whether to fix the gasket issue or replace the engine? Any recommendations on a reliable source for a crate motor? Or recommendations on reliable shops in the Chicagoland area to bring the truck in to? Appreciate any advice... thanks in advance.


So the truck had a blown HG when you received it? I'd ask for my money back if that important piece of information was not provided.

It is unlikely the engine is bad, although it may have been severely overheated, which is what blows headgaskets in the first place. It's needs to be torn down, evaluated for cracks, machined flat, and a valve job done.

If the block is still good, getting the head gasket replaced and the head machined may get you back on the road for a long time.

Strongly recommend you contact Gumby-He lives in Chicago, teaches automechanics, and does side work. He'd be perfect for a project like this and he'd likely do a far better job than anyone you could find. $2k is a little expensive but maybe not out of line. He is who I would contact if my FJ62 needed work in Chicago.
 
Strongly recommend you contact Gumby-He lives in Chicago, teaches automechanics, and does side work. He'd be perfect for a project like this and he'd likely do a far better job than anyone you could find. $2k is a little expensive but maybe not out of line. He is who I would contact if my FJ62 needed work in Chicago.

Very good recommendation.

BTW - How was the headgasket diagnosed? What symptoms does the truck show?
 
Is the truck still in CA or in Chicagoland, now ? (dodging bullets?)
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone. This is extremely helpful as this is my first land cruiser and it's going to be a learning experience. Thanks for the recommendation on Gumby, I will contact him.

Let me tell the complete story to try to answer all of your questions:

I live in Chicago, but spent several months working in Santa Barbara CA recently, and was looking for an FJ 62 while I was out there as I have been interested in them for a while. I found one in San Diego. Did not have it checked by a mechanic before purchasing, which was a mistake. Drove the car 3 hours north to Santa Barbara and it had no issues. I took it to a mechanic to get it checked out and tuned up before I was going to attempt to drive it to Chicago. The mechanic in Santa Barbara told me I had a blown head gasket, gases leaking into coolant, etc. He said it could be fixed for roughly $2k, but that I should think about putting a rebuilt engine in. He said in light of my upcoming trip to Chicago, he could attempt to do a temporary fix for the leak that might hold me over til Chicago, where I would need to repair it. He used sodium silicate and told me that it appeared to be working.

I started the drive to Chicago from Santa Barbara, which is about 2000 miles. I made it about 250 miles (just east of Indio CA) when it started overheating ( I was going up a pretty big hill in hot weather). I called the mechanic and he said it may be that the thermostat is stuck. Anyways I had to have it towed to a mechanic in Indio CA, who told me that he wouldn't attempt to fix the thermostat since the sodium silicate treatment was done, and that he believes the problem was still the head gasket. I took it to another mechanic in town who said the same thing. I ended up renting a Uhaul truck and trailer and hauling the truck to Phoenix, where I left it at a friends place and flew home to Chicago (had to get home for work).

I am now trying to figure out my next steps. My plan is likely to have the car shipped to Chicago (~$800 is what I've seen), instead of trying to manage repair in Phoenix while I'm in Chicago. Before I do that however, I need to have a plan for fixing the head gasket / replacing the engine.

It seems based on feedback below that fixing the head gasket would be a better solution than replacing the engine. However as I see it, if you replace the engine, you can get a rebuilt engine for $1800 with a warranty for 3 years parts and labor. This quote is from Southwest Engines - not sure if this is a reliable source, and also not sure how much installation would cost.

So that's the situation, all feedback appreciated...
 
How many miles on the original engine ?

Don't buy a generic rebuilt engine. If you end up going that route, do it right and have someone who knows these engines do it.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/349535-cruiser-mechanics-listed-state.html

There are a bunch of MUD folks in the Phoenix area - post in the clubhouse section for recommendations, also.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/az-copper-state-cruisers/

http://www.copperstatecruisers.com/

But depending on the over-all condition, I'm thinking a head-gasket (insist on OE Toyota or OEM), is the way to go...

And NEVER NEVER let anyone put bar's leaks in your truck again ....

Good luck.
 
Good luck because your experience aint nice at all this way.
Maybe it is better to get it fixed at a reliable place and help from muddies who can deliver or check your car and then drive it home like you intended.
 
Living in the Past ,might can help you out in Arizona. Mike
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top Bottom