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If someone gave this to you, you wouldn't turn it down:

http://www.realtysouth.com/homes-for-sale/AL/Birmingham/35213/3215-Argyle-Rd-85512292

I have to say though after looking around for that I am shocked how much the prices have seemingly dropped in Forest Park from 7 years ago.

Look at what schools it's zoned for. Although Matt has proven me wrong, I'd take it and knock $250k off and sell it as an investment then move somewhere safe and with good schools.

So I'd take it then sell it immediately.
 
I would have to fence it off and get my self a Zeus and a Apollo.
 
I don't think the show The First 48 would exist without Birmingham
 
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If you can afford the house, you can afford private schools. In the Black Belt, we all had to attend private academies.

The property taxes on that house are over $25,000 and the schools are still abysmal. If I lived there I would send my kids to private school, but why pay that for a house and pay over $20,000 a year for the Altamont school when I can spend the same in any suburb and get great schools and not worry about having the nicest house with blight a stone throw away.
 
The property taxes on that house are over $25,000 and the schools are still abysmal. If I lived there I would send my kids to private school, but why pay that for a house and pay over $20,000 a year for the Altamont school when I can spend the same in any suburb and get great schools and not worry about having the nicest house with blight a stone throw away.

Why? because you can.
 
Why? because you can.

I suppose you're right. You could. But why pay all that just to live in the city limits when you can go right down the road and take the same money, get the same or a better house, and have the best schools and one of the nicest communities in the state.
 
I suppose you're right. You could. But why pay all that just to live in the city limits when you can go right down the road and take the same money, get the same or a better house, and have the best schools and one of the nicest communities in the state.

Agree.

Let's see, $1.8M house in B'ham, $25k in taxes, $40k to send 2 kids to Altamont.

OR.

$1.8M house in Mt. Brook (http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2865-Canterbury-Rd-Mountain-Brk-AL-35223/978650_zpid/), $15k in property tax (according to Zillow at least), two kids in Mt. Brook schools for essentially free.

Hrmm...

My experience with the type people that will buy million dollar houses was that they're usually very concerned with value and return on their money. Schools aside, I'd say that investing in real estate in Mt. Brook, while at a premium, has less inherent risk than investing in real estate in Birmingham proper. Now, perhaps they'd see the value in sending their children to The Altamont School instead of MBHS, Homewood, or Vestavia. I can tell you though that schools like Altamont are having to try harder and harder to get enrollment up. My mother in law is the head of finance at Altamont, and they are consistently trying to come up with ways to get new students.

Private schools in Birmingham are nowhere NEAR as large as they are in somewhere like Memphis, precisely because you CAN live in a suburb and get an amazing education at a public school. MUS, CBHS, St. Dominic, St. Mary's, Hutchison, St. Louis, Campus School, all of those in memphis have classes numbering at least 100 graduate every year. Compare that to somewhere like Altamont that has maybe 40 on a GOOD year. Indian Springs, Briarwood, Altamont, Westminister, I bet they don't have 250 combined total graduate in a year.

Not to say that all of the Memphis City Schools are bad, there are a couple of good ones, but many of them are terrible.
 
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The Redmont property is almost 3 acres vs less than half an acre for the Mtn. Brook property so they are not comparable by any stretch. Also, if you think sending kids to Mtn. Brook schools is essentially free...you must not know anyone who has kids enrolled there.

I hate to argue both sides of the issue but you get a lot more house for the money in the city than in the Suburbs. When we were looking for houses 7 years ago we were looking in Forest Park, Homewood, North Crestwood and Highland Park - probably in that order. Similar style houses in all areas but you could get at least twice the square footage in the three neighborhoods in town. We knew we were going to send our kids to Catholic school regardless so school system was not a consideration.

Flipping back to the other side of the coin...

just as an experiment I told my wife how much the houses in Forest Park had dropped and suggested we should move back and renovate another one on the golf course. She said "that's fine as long as you never take another business trip because I wouldn't be comfortable by myself at night over there anymore."

We were a couple of sticking points on a contract away from moving into at least three houses that I remember in Forest Park and honestly if we hadn't lived in Homewood this long I don't know that we would think too much about it. I don't think we will ever move back now though.
 
The Redmont property is almost 3 acres vs less than half an acre for the Mtn. Brook property so they are not comparable by any stretch. Also, if you think sending kids to Mtn. Brook schools is essentially free...you must not know anyone who has kids enrolled there.

I hate to argue both sides of the issue but you get a lot more house for the money in the city than in the Suburbs. When we were looking for houses 7 years ago we were looking in Forest Park, Homewood, North Crestwood and Highland Park - probably in that order. Similar style houses in all areas but you could get at least twice the square footage in the three neighborhoods in town. We knew we were going to send our kids to Catholic school regardless so school system was not a consideration.

Flipping back to the other side of the coin...

just as an experiment I told my wife how much the houses in Forest Park had dropped and suggested we should move back and renovate another one on the golf course. She said "that's fine as long as you never take another business trip because I wouldn't be comfortable by myself at night over there anymore."

We were a couple of sticking points on a contract away from moving into at least three houses that I remember in Forest Park and honestly if we hadn't lived in Homewood this long I don't know that we would think too much about it. I don't think we will ever move back now though.

I suppose "essentially free" is not a good way to put it.

I'd imagine though that the out of pocket expenses excluding tuition would be comparable b/t Mt. Brook and Altamont.

Curious if that's not the case what the heck it costs to go to "public" school in Mt. Brook?

I can always appreciate someone who'll argue both sides of an issue. I do it myself sometimes ;)

I'd say you can push the "more house for the money" to the extreme in instances within the city limits, but as you mention, the location is always going to be in the back of your mind for safety concerns. Some of those houses west of BSC were really nice at one time, and it's a total catastrophe now. I wouldn't want to chance it in B'ham and have my investment take a long jump off a short pier.
 
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I can always appreciate someone who'll argue both sides of an issue. I do it myself sometimes ;)

Yin-Yang.
Blue dog democrat. Understanding both sides means more peace. I like it.
 
Not to trying to rehash this... but 2 homicides on Saturday and THREE today?! Holy crap! That's 5 in just over 48 hours!
 
for not trying you did a pretty good job. bravo.
 
I got my A/C fixed by a cousin of some one who owed me a
Favor..He did for $80.. We got to talking and he drag races aparanlty has a car that runs 4s in 1/8ths. He ended up inviting me to go up with his crew wed. Night.
I'm suposed to meet them at thier shop wed and ride up with them..
That's pretty cool but some how I think I'm gonna stick out a little.
Might be worth it for a ride in a 4 sec nova.
Said he did a 1/4 in about 7 and went through the trap a little over 150 but he had let off because he gor sacred. If I went from 0 to 150 on under a quarter mile I would simutaniously crap and pee my pants.
 
..... but he had let off because he gor sacred. If I went from 0 to 150 on under a quarter mile I would simutaniously crap and pee my pants.


I gor sacred in my pants simutaniously right now!
 
Yeah yeah.. My phone skills sick... I have been high on steroids and codien for 3 days now. I have to type with one eye..
I tell you two things that mess me up are steroids and benadryl. I haven't been asleep until 4 every night since Saturday.
 

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