Here are the pics from this weeks work. Lift, tires/wheels, sliders, winch and ARB Sahara. Stoked
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BFG A/T's in 305/65R18
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I have a set of 5 305/18s in the for sale section.
we had nice ice storm today and the cliff with a road name that leads to my house was a sheet. the subi in front of me had to take run, and it was turning sideways. it was awd, you could see the front pulling it straight.
the lx470 waltzed up the hill with the bfg at's (20,000 miles on them).
just sayin'
the lx470 waltzed up the hill with the bfg at's (20,000 miles on them).
just sayin'
JBHorne - Did you ever buy the BFG A/T 305/65R18s? I am getting my OME lift installed this week and am trying to decide on the tires. I like the Nittos but they just don't seem to have a tire with the right height AND width for an upgrade using the stock rim. Not willing to spend more to get the 17" rims.
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Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but I believe the consensus here was that the 305/65R18 was both too wide for the stock rims and too tall (34" tire). The factory rims are 8.5" wide while the 305 states a 9" minimum. You could squeeze it on, but don't expect to get a warranty claim. Personally? With the liability of tires and the risks involved, I wouldn't risk it.
The Nitto 285/65R18 is the largest that will fit without rubbing.
I'm doing all my mods at once (within the year) and obviously want to stuff the largest tires under there as possible (but prefer not the mod the fenders). Has anyone actually tried the 305/65R18 with just the OME lift and spacers?
Factory rim is only 8" wide.
Tire Size Stock # Tread Diameter Width Appr. Rim Size Revs/Mile
LT285/60R18 E 123S 200-880 15.6 31.5 11.5 8.0-(8.5)-10.0 660
LT285/65R18 E 125R 200-810 16.5 32.52 11.22 8.0-(8.5)-10.0 639
LT275/70R18 E 125S 200-910 15.6 33.27 10.94 7.0-(8.0)-8.5 624
Hopefully this chart comes through.
The 1st one is the stock size.
The 2nd one is the one JB referred to.
The 3rd one is a little narrower but is a legitimate 33" (plus a little).
These are all Nitto TG's.
Anyone see a reason to not go for the 3rd one?
Thanks for the help.
LT285/60R18 E 123S 200-880 15.6 31.5 11.5 8.0-(8.5)-10.0 660
LT285/65R18 E 125R 200-810 16.5 32.52 11.22 8.0-(8.5)-10.0 639
LT275/70R18 E 125S 200-910 15.6 33.27 10.94 7.0-(8.0)-8.5 624
Hopefully this chart comes through.
The 1st one is the stock size.
The 2nd one is the one JB referred to.
The 3rd one is a little narrower but is a legitimate 33" (plus a little).
These are all Nitto TG's.
Anyone see a reason to not go for the 3rd one?
Thanks for the help.
You could easily go for the third one with no issues.
When the tire is too wide, it will hit the sway bar on full turn...an offset rim would help that a bit. I run a stock sized rim with 285/70/17 and the tire diameter is 32.8. There is plenty of room, so adding a 33.27 wouldn't affect it to much. If there is any rub, and I doubt there would be, it would only rub on full turn on the mud flaps.
When the tire is too wide, it will hit the sway bar on full turn...an offset rim would help that a bit. I run a stock sized rim with 285/70/17 and the tire diameter is 32.8. There is plenty of room, so adding a 33.27 wouldn't affect it to much. If there is any rub, and I doubt there would be, it would only rub on full turn on the mud flaps.
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Since rims are definitely not aplenty, could you just add a spacer? I have no idea if they are a good idea, legal, or anything. They may not be...
You could add a spacer, but I would warn against that. First off...not sure anyone makes a spacer out there for the bolt size (haven't looked into it, but it would be easy with a CNC machine), second...it does put stress on the joint and finally...it just adds one more thing to go wrong. I would hate to be driving and have a couple of bolts be breaking off.
Spacers have been used successfully for wheelin for years...it just doesn't make sense to me on something that is a daily driver, and sees the highway speeds we do.
Nitto TG 305/60R18
TFSS5,
Sorry about the late -and multiple- questions, I’m thinking of installing Nitto TG 305/60R18 on my 2008 LC 200, stock rims and stock height (all original) and was wondering, in your experience;
1) Was this install done on the original rim that comes with the LC200?
2) According to Chimyz; “It's a rim thing...285s are for 8" wide rim, 295s are for 8.5" wide rim and 305s are for 9" rim.” What is the width of the stock Lc200 rim and how would that effect the vehicle?
3) When you say “But when we installed OME suspension there is tire rubbing…” you meant OldManEmu suspensions not Original Manufacturer Equipment, correct?
4) If all goes well with this size would there be long term negative effect on the steering/suspension systems (oversize and weight…) of the vehicle?
5) You mentioned “even in flat surfaces the tires are very near the UCA.” What would be the disadvantage and would they rub?
Thanks,
MD
TFSS5,
Sorry about the late -and multiple- questions, I’m thinking of installing Nitto TG 305/60R18 on my 2008 LC 200, stock rims and stock height (all original) and was wondering, in your experience;
1) Was this install done on the original rim that comes with the LC200?
2) According to Chimyz; “It's a rim thing...285s are for 8" wide rim, 295s are for 8.5" wide rim and 305s are for 9" rim.” What is the width of the stock Lc200 rim and how would that effect the vehicle?
3) When you say “But when we installed OME suspension there is tire rubbing…” you meant OldManEmu suspensions not Original Manufacturer Equipment, correct?
4) If all goes well with this size would there be long term negative effect on the steering/suspension systems (oversize and weight…) of the vehicle?
5) You mentioned “even in flat surfaces the tires are very near the UCA.” What would be the disadvantage and would they rub?
Thanks,
MD
I have the 295 bfg a/t and love them. A little road noise at 35-70 but tolerable. I've had them in mud. They're not to bad, you have to keep cleaning them ( spinning the tires frantically). They ride very good and for being a 34" tire. The steering response is pretty good. I have 120k on my truck so the steering probably isn't as crisp as a 200. I didn't need a mt and a nitto wasn't agressive enough.
Look at John Shotts picture albums and he's ran the a/t everywhere. Those pics give an example of how tough they are as well as last a while. I've had 6K on mine and how no wear. I've also done some fast country highway driving. Very solid through higher speed corners, no drifting or tippy feeling.
The rain can get you a little sideways if your not careful. That being said if it's raining hard, why the hell would you be going fast? Normal rain no problems. Pondering water, puddles, or fast driving will get any tire to hydroplane. The bfg just hydroplanes a little easier.
All in all I love my bfgs. No complaints, other than it swamped my mpg's. Seriously.... swamped.
Look at John Shotts picture albums and he's ran the a/t everywhere. Those pics give an example of how tough they are as well as last a while. I've had 6K on mine and how no wear. I've also done some fast country highway driving. Very solid through higher speed corners, no drifting or tippy feeling.
The rain can get you a little sideways if your not careful. That being said if it's raining hard, why the hell would you be going fast? Normal rain no problems. Pondering water, puddles, or fast driving will get any tire to hydroplane. The bfg just hydroplanes a little easier.
All in all I love my bfgs. No complaints, other than it swamped my mpg's. Seriously.... swamped.
why anyone want to put wider than 285's on? Worse gas mileage and just another way to float like a boat on puddled surfaces. Maybe I am missing something? Nitto or BFG A/T needs to make a 285/70/18 and make them run flats.
The 285/65/18 Goodyear Silent Armors received great reviews. They all have a snowflake rating. Check out reviews on Tire Rack
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why anyone want to put wider than 285's on? Worse gas mileage and just another way to float like a boat on puddled surfaces. Maybe I am missing something? Nitto or BFG A/T needs to make a 285/70/18 and make them run flats.
Wheeling. The taller and wider the better (to an extent). Much more gripping power when you go wider, and you can air down better when taller.
Thanks jb. I should have looked outside box or pavement on that one.
Nitto TG 305/60R18
Hi,
Does anyone have experience with the Nitto TG 305/60R18 on an LC200 (All Stock), the way they ride and handle, grip, consomption….?
Any input would be appreciated.
MD.
Hi,
Does anyone have experience with the Nitto TG 305/60R18 on an LC200 (All Stock), the way they ride and handle, grip, consomption….?
Any input would be appreciated.
MD.
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I don't think anyone is running this wide. There really is no reason to either. If you are at stock height and stock everything else, you are probably not wheeling the vehicle. So why would you want to run a tire that just chews gas for no reason? If you were wheeling it, then I could see the added width being to your advantage when aired down.
I don't think it will fit, personally. It will hit the UCA or KDSS cylinder on full lock, and most likely rub on the front mudflap. The rear is probably not an issue. Maybe with an offset rim you could do this, but be careful on full articulation is the tires up-travel is quite a bit -- will into the fender.
JBHorne,
If there were no risk of touching/rubbing I would be concerned about the tire being too wide for the 8" wheels => ballooning in the middle => uneven wear down the middle of the tire.
Also, there is the issue of a lower tread foot print of the tire too, obviously.
You are right though, no heavy wheeling but the occasional beach venture with slight off roading and sand crossing, I guess I will have to settle for the 295/60R-18, not sure what brand yet as Nitto doesn’t produce this size, any suggestions?
Thanks,
MD.
Has anyone tried 295/70/18? NITTO Terra Grappler comes in that size. It comes out to 34.41in. tall fully inflated as per there website. I called a local tire shop and was quoted $214 per tire installed out the door on 285/70/18 Terra Grappler and $10 more per tire for the 295/70/18.
