Best Diesel Fuel

[wesintl]

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Another interesting note is the dye that is used can always be detected even after you stop running it, as long as you have the same tank it is very hard to get rid of it.

If that were the case every farmer would be paying up. Most that I have been around don't run ag fuel, Gas or diesel because they do check in rural areas. That said I've seen just about every farmer top off or fill a tank here and there to get to town to fill up. Heck last time I was in Iowa pumped a few gal of the farmers gas. No way I could have made it to town on the fumes since I was driving around on dirt roads all night trying to find his place.

 

[brownbear]

I think the vegetable oil is better that bio in the cold since you HAVE to have a heater in the tank, Biodiesel would be just as good with heated tank and lines.

probably just as good. but with bio you are running typically a single tank, so you don't have the option to get it warm before starting unless plugged into an outlet.

if you have to go to a dual tank setup with a heater then its not worth the time and effort to brew biodiesel.

I've heard biodiesel guys cutting their stuff with dino fuel in the cold. can't remember the %.

some guys run bio in the regular tank and veg in the second. come winter they put diesel back in the reg tank.

most of the info is with guys running VW s.

 

[Red Herring]

What about running like a 20% bio diesel/ diesel mix. I presume you would not need any special equipment for this... aside from the equiopment to make it? Just add it straight in... right? How high can you go on a diesel/bio-diesel mix and stay stock... anyone know?

 

[Greg_B]

What about running like a 20% bio diesel/ diesel mix. I presume you would not need any special equipment for this... aside from the equiopment to make it? Just add it straight in... right? How high can you go on a diesel/bio-diesel mix and stay stock... anyone know?

I thought 20% bio is the standard max cut before you have to make changes in the rubber hoses?

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[Mick]

If you are talking about in the US you are correct with the exception of the Red Dye added to ag diesel (also home heating) if you are caught running this stuff in your registered street vehicle you get a serious fine (I think it starts around $10k) and they can take your ride away. I have heard that the feds keep tabs on purchasing of ag diesel and if you don't own a big farm and buy a lot of it you could get checked for it.

Another interesting note is the dye that is used can always be detected even after you stop running it, as long as you have the same tank it is very hard to get rid of it.

Know this could all be fud put out by people but there seems to be enough of it and the red fuel is pretty red so I would say trying to run the ag diesel is a pretty big risk considering the fines/trouble you can get in if you get caught.

FWIW


Michael

There is a catch, but I think the chances of getting caught are slim. I used nothing but red for over 20 yrs in the UK without a problem, and know of many that do the same. In Ireland they filter it through cat litter, this removes the dye.
For the first time in my life I can legally use red diesel. I had some delivered only yesterday but they filled my tank with clear by mistake. When I can't legally run on red that's what I use, and when I can legaly use red I run on white


BTW what happened about those bits and pieces that I was after ?

 

[dieseldog]

The shops with highest turnover of fuel are definitely where I buy my fuel because my main concern is water in the fuel. Here in Houston, I tend to avoid Diamond Shamrock stations and try to work from a list of about ten or so stations around the area that I KNOW move a lot of fuel.

I have purchased materials and plans to begin a biodiesel plant of my own--based on the use of a water heater as a heated reaction vessel. I want to begin small (make enough to use as an additive for my seven diesels) and try to run my own B5 blend. My eventual goal is to build up to the point where I can eventually supply as much biodiesel as I need--including running B100 as I retrofit particular vehicles with Viton hoses and such. My main plan is to use biodiesel as a clean, cheap additive that will alleviate my need to buy cetane/lubricity additives. Currently I use a Lucas product and it seems to work very well. I buy it by the gallon and divide it into smaller containers that I carry in each of my vehicles. I add at least four or five ounces every time I fill.

At least one of my vehicles is going to have a second tank so that I can try out a veggie oil setup. I think that going "off grid" is an exciting idea that will only gain more acceptance as time goes by.

 

[cruiser_guy]

i have not found any up here in canada yet but in the states if you can get grade 1 then run it... more power and supposed to be cleaner fuel (what ever that means)
cheers

Wayne, #1 is winter fuel, that's also in Canada in the winter and #2 is the summer fuel.

 

[crushers]

yes that is true but i have not found a place that sells it up here, only over the border...
cheers

 

[brownbear]

the card lock(petro canada) I go to has number one on the tank. I will have to see if it changes come summer.

 

[Jim_Phillips]

Who sells the best fuel?

Biodiesel is the best fuel - you make it