Anyone have a 62 or 80 they'd like to trade? I'll spare you guys the sob story, with the exception that altogether I have $13k into this 60. I'm not sure what the issue is, what I know is the front tire on the driver side sits out past the fender approximately .5" further than the passenger side, which translates to roughly .25" off center. Murf told me that a spring perch on the passenger side was buggered, which is what caused that spring to shift. The tech repaired the perch and continued with the install of the OME heavy deluxe. Well the axle is still off center and it appears there is stress on the front passenger shackle. I'm thinking if I need to replace perches, I might as well do a shackle reversal. I do want to check the frame before doing anything else. Any suggestions? Thanks...
At wits' end
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I don't know if I would bail on it for .25". How does it drive mp? Are you experiencing any problems or concerned mostly with the measurement?
Cruisers need love, adjustment, parts and patience. They are 20+ year old vehicles and we tend to own them because we love the brand, the engineering that went into them, and the community that supports them.
If you freak or bail at each sign of trouble then you are not going to enjoy owning your truck. If you worry about your truck more than you enjoy it then you may want to consider if cruiser ownership is the right thing for you.
If you freak or bail at each sign of trouble then you are not going to enjoy owning your truck. If you worry about your truck more than you enjoy it then you may want to consider if cruiser ownership is the right thing for you.
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I apologize for my insubordination, I won't step out of line again....you say "the community that supports them", while only offering criticism and no suggestion for solution? Let's think about that for a sec, theres gotta be a word for that. While you do make valid points, I'm not new to LCs or their quirks. I didn't come here to be lectured like a child looking to adopt a pet at the humane society, I came here for help with my 60, and the comradery from the community you speak of.
I have no intention to bail Murf, I made the comment to illustrate my frustraion and desperation with the issue at hand, I was being facetious. I'm not worried about .25, per se. My concern is the damage done to the prior suspension (which lcgeek has and is repairable according to him) which was only a couple years old. I spent a lot of money on the OME and can't drive it for fear of it tearing its self apart and damaging my new springs. I'm out of budget and have gotten, seemingly nowhere. It's my primary vehicle now and I want to be able to drive and enjoy it.
I had the same issue with my 40 which had been "bumped" but more severe (almost an inch). After a new set of body bushings and some creative tweaking of the tub with ratchet staps it solved it. Sure it's not just a body problem?
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I had the same issue with my 40 which had been "bumped" but more severe (almost an inch). After a new set of body bushings and some creative tweaking of the tub with ratchet staps it solved it. Sure it's not just a body problem?
I am not sure. All paint and body panels appear to be original. Is there a shop you could recomend that would be able to take a look at it? Was in only body damage, or did you hace to tweak the frame too?
I had the same issue with my 40 which had been "bumped" but more severe (almost an inch). After a new set of body bushings and some creative tweaking of the tub with ratchet staps it solved it. Sure it's not just a body problem?
We have seen lots of body/frame /axle shifts. Even on the 80/450 rigs, we have seen +/- 1/4" on a lot of rear bumper installs. John
^^^What inkpot said.
Just shifted the tub enough to drive me crazy, there is room for play in the bushings and the cruiser frame is pretty much bullet proof.
I have no history on this forum of being a troll.
You appear to have difficulty controlling your emotions and tend to overreact. That is obvious from your posts, difficulty with your vehicle and your reaction to my comments.
Ownership of a vehicle that may present challenges occasionally may not be best suited for you unless you have the budget for professional assistance.
I wish you the best of luck getting your truck sorted out.
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Why can't we all just get along...Keep hope alive !!!!!!
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Well your certainly not providing anything of value to the conversation. Everyone else who has commented has either offered help or PM'd me offering assistance. The only thing you offer is a lecture and a suggestion that I should not own a cruiser. Should I not expect a decently sorted 60 for $13k? If you're not trolling this thread, why do you keep checking it and offering only antagonistic comments? Do you have any valuable advice, other than suggesting I should not own a 60 for not having a stout budget? If so lets hear it. As I recall, when you posted, I PM'd you, offering a solution, granted it was not viable for you, I still wanted to help you and I tried. Others here have helped by suggesting its not nearly as bad as I think or offered tecnical experience they have had in similar situations, which is a valuable contribution. Those who have done so have eased my concerns. If I am mistaken about your intent or meaning, I apologize.
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What would I measure to determine if the body mounts may be the issue? Distance from frame to ground compared to body to ground? I remember as a kid, my dad had a supra that he could not put the targa top back on when it was in the driveway. Finally he realized it was due to the uneven surface. Would uneven body mounts cause the frame to twist in turn pushing the axle off center?
Post some pictures of what you are observing as an issue. I.e. Straight on shots of the shackles, the perches, springs, etc... Also perhaps a bob/plum line from each fender along with measurements from the frame rail to the inside of the wheel on each side.
It is very difficult to conclude there is a major issue with your suspension that requires significant work without understanding what you are observing as an issue. Are you hearing any binding noises or observing deflection that would cause damage under articulation?
Suspension moves around, especially if there are extended shackles (which I am pretty sure this truck has). I would not be surprised by a .25 -.50 inch discrepancy in a truck with aftermarket suspension.
It is very difficult to conclude there is a major issue with your suspension that requires significant work without understanding what you are observing as an issue. Are you hearing any binding noises or observing deflection that would cause damage under articulation?
Suspension moves around, especially if there are extended shackles (which I am pretty sure this truck has). I would not be surprised by a .25 -.50 inch discrepancy in a truck with aftermarket suspension.
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I will get a plumb bob tomorrow and get pics of points I can measure. It drives beautifully and straight as an arrow. I don't hear noises or feel binding, though I've not taken it off road since the OME install. It will want to dart/body roll to the left when hitting a bump or dip though. I'll get a close up pic of the shackle in question. My main concern is the former suspension and the way in which it was damaged. The guide bolt that holds the leafs together was sheared and two of the leafs shifted all the way forward. I can see, what appears to me to be stress on that shackle and it makes me feel like the thing is going to tear its self apart again. I'd hate to compromise my new springs.
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Here on the top left and bottom right you can see a gap between the shackle and perch and leaf. Its mirrored on the drive side. It was not this was when I picked it up from CBT. I have put on 1500 highway miles since install.
