antique tags and insurance - 1988 Celica Alltrac

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I am looking for recommendations on classic car insurance. Who do you use and who do you recommend?

Also, for a 32 year old car, what are the inspection requirements?

I plan to drive 2500 or less miles a year and may be get a classic tag.

Any and all recommendations greatly appreciated from the experts.

Thank you.
 
Pretty sure you won't have any inspections with the recent law change. Moonshine no longer needs an inspection, just pay the tax and I get a sticker.
 
No inspection requirements (in NC) if 35 years or older

Get the antique license plate/tag and it‘s a flat rate for property tax/renewal

I have Hagerty insurance and it’s agreed value policy. They require the car to be stored in a garage on your property and validate said garage based on google earth / street view.
 
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No inspection requirements (in NC) if 35 years or older

Get the antique license plate/tag and it‘s a flat rate for property tax/renewal

I have Hagerty insurance and it’s stated/cash value policy. They require the car to be stored in a garage on your property and validate said garage based on google earth / street view.
Thank you. I have a car port. I wonder if that counts.

32 years old. ugh. ;<)
 
No inspection requirements (in NC) if 35 years or older

No, that's old info. The law just changed, I just don't recall what to. Moonshine, an 87 model year, no longer requires an inspection at all.
 
i don't think a car port counts with hagerty i think it must be an enclosed garage. ( but i am speaking from something i think i read)
 
The antique car rule is at 30 years. That will work.

I sent an email to make an appointment for inspection and picture so I can register as an antique.

Trying to find insurance now.
 
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I worked in insurance for 10 years before my current job and there are a few companies other than Hagerty (they are considered the best, but the rates can get high) that will offer agreed value coverage, which is where you declare the car's value and they insure it for that amount. I currently use Safeco insurance for my 55 and 40 and have the agreed value coverage through the agency I worked for running their private client group (Marsh Mclennan agency off creedmoor rd). You can get more info on the difference between antique and classic car coverage at the link below. Feel free to PM for more info or to get you in touch with someone.


Classic cars must be at least 10 years old and can include modified antiques and limited production cars. Modern classic cars must be limited production cars less than 10 years old. Antique cars must be at least 25 years old and have no modifications or have been restored to their original condition. Other restrictions may apply.
 
I worked in insurance for 10 years before my current job and there are a few companies other than Hagerty (they are considered the best, but the rates can get high) that will offer agreed value coverage, which is where you declare the car's value and they insure it for that amount. I currently use Safeco insurance for my 55 and 40 and have the agreed value coverage through the agency I worked for running their private client group (Marsh Mclennan agency off creedmoor rd). You can get more info on the difference between antique and classic car coverage at the link below. Feel free to PM for more info or to get you in touch with someone.


Classic cars must be at least 10 years old and can include modified antiques and limited production cars. Modern classic cars must be limited production cars less than 10 years old. Antique cars must be at least 25 years old and have no modifications or have been restored to their original condition. Other restrictions may apply.
This brings up an interesting question.

We have 3 100 series and I want stated value on all 3. Since they are beyond 10 years, would they qualify for classic car? The reason being, they can not be replaced for what I paid for them based on LC appreciation. And they are all driven less than 7500 miles per year.
 
I did not have to provide the dmv with pictures to register as an antique.

I did have to provide hagerty with pics for them to insure.

David had his 40 insured through hagerty and I believe he stored in a carport but I am not sure.
 
This brings up an interesting question.

We have 3 100 series and I want stated value on all 3. Since they are beyond 10 years, would they qualify for classic car? The reason being, they can not be replaced for what I paid for them based on LC appreciation. And they are all driven less than 7500 miles per year.
They will qualify for classic car and the agreed value coverage, but there are some limitations and exclusions (usage of the car, modifications, etc.) that your agent should be able to let you know about. The insurance company will also have to agree on the value you are insuring.
 
I've used Hagerty on and off for about 20 years now. I've greatly appreciated their service as well as their coverage. If you are putting less than 2500 miles/year on the Celica, I think their services are what you are looking for. I've seen it mentioned that Hagerty's premiums are a bit steep. I think that may be the case, but I've never had to argue with them over covering repairs or the value of my vehicles. They are more in-touch with the classic car enthusiast market than most automobile insurance companies are. They understand that most classic vehicle owners will do their own work, source their own parts, and most likely keep that classic regardless of the accident damage that occurs. I've used or looked into other insurance companies. I'm sure there are other good ones out there now, but I feel Hagerty has a better understanding of the classic enthusiast and the classic market as a whole.

Nationwide, Allstate, State Farm, and Farmers all have divisions that take care of classic car owners, but it's not their forté. Most will value the car for its tax value or somewhere in that ballpark, undervaluing the car. In most cases the only way to get them to agree to a larger declared value is to have the vehicle evaluated by an appraiser. Not to say their method isn't a good way of doing things, it's just more expensive than I'd like. Hagerty keeps up with the current trend of classic vehicle values. Hagerty will know your car's value pretty well and they are open to discussing any discrepancies. They even have vehicle valuation tools on their site to illustrate this. So, they'll understand that a 1969 COPO Camaro is worth more than $4K. Hagerty also publishes a magazine for their customers. The magazine dives into the trends in historic car values, in fact the 80 series Land Cruiser was highlighted in their most recent issue.

Hagerty offers several services to their customers, the handiest one for me has been flat bed towing. My Mustang sprung a pressurized oil leak at one point and I was forced to pull off the road. The thought of getting a regular tow truck to bring the Mustang home didn't sit well with me. Fortunately, as part of their customer support, Hagerty gives everyone the option of flat bed towing to their house or to a shop. I appreciated the fact that their towing service didn't do anything to my premiums, however the speeding ticket I got did.

Sales pitch over...

On the note of inspection, I can't really offer much info up on this. My car had been registered here back in the early 90s, so it was still fresh in the NCDOT database. I was told that their inspection isn't that big a deal though. They are mostly trying to verify that the car is what you say it is, nothing more than that.

Edit: Above I mentioned that insurers use the tax value of a vehicle, this is wrong. They use an agreed upon value.
Edit 2: Hagerty does keep up with current trends, but also uses valuation guides (Old cars report price guide), professional appraisers, and research conucted by an underwriter.
 
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I worked in insurance for 10 years before my current job and there are a few companies other than Hagerty (they are considered the best, but the rates can get high) that will offer agreed value coverage, which is where you declare the car's value and they insure it for that amount. I currently use Safeco insurance for my 55 and 40 and have the agreed value coverage through the agency I worked for running their private client group (Marsh Mclennan agency off creedmoor rd). You can get more info on the difference between antique and classic car coverage at the link below. Feel free to PM for more info or to get you in touch with someone.


Classic cars must be at least 10 years old and can include modified antiques and limited production cars. Modern classic cars must be limited production cars less than 10 years old. Antique cars must be at least 25 years old and have no modifications or have been restored to their original condition. Other restrictions may apply.
I like Safeco too! This was one of the other companies I looked at along with Hagerty.

@rw74228 would probably be able to comment on any glaring inaccuracies or oversights I mentioned above.
 
I use State Farm. They let me state the value. I had to provide pictures and justification for the value, but they did not fight me on it. It was a pretty easy experience. I was able to get them to insure the FJ62 for $30k. I could probably go back and up the value now that it's been painted. It is supposed to be garage kept and under 5k miles per year.
 
Went with hagerty. Alltrac is suppose to arrive tomorrow. Thank you all for the inputs.
 
DMV called. The inspection is for anything 1980 or earlier because of the different/shorter vin format. He said he gets the question all the time which indicates they need to update the website. ;<)

He said go to dmv and register for an antique plate and will be good to go.

Shipping update - Arrival is scheduled on 3/10/2021
 
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I use State Farm. They let me state the value. I had to provide pictures and justification for the value, but they did not fight me on it. It was a pretty easy experience. I was able to get them to insure the FJ62 for $30k. I could probably go back and up the value now that it's been painted. It is supposed to be garage kept and under 5k miles per year.

any issues with the 62 being 'modified' or anything other than stock?

Do you follow the garage/mileage requirements every day?
 
any issues with the 62 being 'modified' or anything other than stock?

Do you follow the garage/mileage requirements every day?
No issues w/ modifications. They asked me to send pictures & then approved my request. I follow the garage requirement & now I don't put many miles on it. Initially, I was driving over 5k miles/annual & asked my agent what would happen if they suspected I drove over the mileage. She said that they would pay out a claim, but retroactively adjust premiums & adjust the claim payout.
 

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