Another quick 80 Series speaker write up.

[cruiserman]

Thanks for taking the lead on the speakers. I installed the 4" Pioneers tonight.

Are the front speakers split between mid (door) and tweeter (dash)? If so, is there a crossover filter splitting the signals? Did you leave the dash speakers connected?

 

[Skillet]

Also, how much room is there behind the magnet on the rear doors?

Or I guess a better question is: how far from the sheetmetal lip of the speaker hole until you would hit something inside the door?

Looked like plenty of room back there. There is no window guide bar in the way like the front door.

 

[Skillet]

Thanks for this write up. This is great info.

Did you end up replacing the 2 speakers in the way back? The ones that are in the headliner?

So 6 1/2's for the front doors and 4" for the rear doors. Right? Did you have to put spacers for the rears?

Thanks.

No problem. I hope it helps to some degree.

Yes on the sizes, but as I said, you need to look for the right 4" as the magnets on some are too big to fit through the hole in the door.

About the way back speakers, I have not. In my rig they are just tweeters just like the dash mount ones. Seems kinda useless.

I would rather go with some separates up front. Noone will be sitting in the way back anymore anyway.

 

[Tommyloco]

still have the 6.25 pioneer?
Tommyloco 92

 

[MikeB]

Has anyone tried mounting a regular full range speaker in place of the factory sub? might be nice to have *some* sound coming from that area.

I am using a Rockford Fosgate FRC2206 6.5" speaker in place of the rear woofer speaker, with all stock wiring and a Scion head unit. My original rear woofer and front door speakers sounded blown out as soon as I installed the Scion. Apparently it puts out more bass than the original head unit + amp combo did. I soldered the connector scavenged from the old speaker to the FRC2206 and use the orginal plug. The only mod was to oblong the holes in the stock sheet metal bracket a fraction of an inch to get them to align with the new speaker mounting holes. I am getting clean sounding bass from the speaker. If the original woofer was contributing anything to the sound, then this is clearly better.

It appears that there is room for a shallow 8" subwoofer speaker behind the back panel if you made a new sheetmetal bracket to hold it. I was going to try this using all stock wiring until I happened to find the single 6.5" speaker for sale.

I used JCV CS-V524 speakers in the front doors. They fit with no drama or modifications to anything. I spaced the surface of the speaker out flush with the metal of the door and used 1.25" pan head #12 sheet metal screws into the orginal holes. Cut the connector wires off the old speakers and soldered them to the new ones to retain the stock plugs. The door skin and grills fit the same as with the orginal speakers.

 

[eldgenb]

great write up very detailed.. Appreciate it..

 

[Skillet]

still have the 6.25 pioneer?
Tommyloco 92

Nope, sorry. Those were gone about a year ago.

Thanks for asking!



Jeb

 

[Lka1988]

...before I got the Pioneers, I got some Infinity 4" speakers, the magnet was just a hair too large to fit in the actual hole in doors sheet metal.

HAHAHA!! I know this thread is old, but that's exactly what I did the other day! LOL

 

[Ted44]

Has anyone tried mounting a regular full range speaker in place of the factory sub? might be nice to have *some* sound coming from that area.

Yes.

I had been keeping an tabs on the clearance section of the Crutchfield store and scored a pair of Sony XS-V1642A 6-1/2" 4-way speakers for $60. I replaced the stock "subwoofer" with one of them.

I clipped the stock speaker connectors and spliced on the Sony connectors. I drilled 4 new holes on the stock bracket 90* off from the stock mounting holes and dremeled the little alignment nubs flat. Used #10 1/2" bolts w/ a rubber washer between the speaker and the bracket and a lock washer under the nut.

The sound is not audiophile quality, but I'm not either. It is a noticeable improvement, especially to the teenage 3rd row passenger who complained of the weird fuzzy sound. From the front seats there is a much fuller sound in general.

 

[XXXR]

Whitey - the covers were painted to match the interior? I have a set of Bostons I installed years ago with a Sony head (SUX) and I need cover replacements. I like how yours match unless you used the stocker set that I missed reading.. DOH!

 

[Koffer]

Funny you should mention that...

NO GO on the 6.25 in the rear doors.

Were these 6.25 or 5.25 for the fronts? as I cant find a 6.25 but this is also a older post ?

Thanks

 

[Skillet]

Whitey - the covers were painted to match the interior? I have a set of Bostons I installed years ago with a Sony head (SUX) and I need cover replacements. I like how yours match unless you used the stocker set that I missed reading.. DOH!

yes, they are the stock covers. tossed the pioneer ones, or used them for something else, can't remember.

 

[Skillet]

Were these 6.25 or 5.25 for the fronts? as I cant find a 6.25 but this is also a older post ?

Thanks

6.25 in front, backs are 4".

The link has since been retired.

 

[Koffer]

6.25 in front, backs are 4".

Thanks
as my fronts are past being poor and have moved right to the "F"ed stage

 

[jeffro]

Nice write up.

Thanks for the pics!

 

[robmir]

On front speakers you should install some kind of rubber gasket spacer 100 % all around, between the back of the speaker and the door instead of using only spacers on the screws, If not bass will be canceled because front pulses are 180º out phase against rear pulses.

Regarding the rear subwoofer, Toyota uses a small powered subwoofer amplifier which combines the 4 outputs of the L/R, front and rear signals, as to balance the subwoofer output no matter the position of the front / rear fader.

This amp sends only low frequency signal to the subwoofer.

1) The subwoofer amplifier "amplify" also the stock head unit own distortion !!!!

2) The subwoofer stock mono amp is neither of good quality nor enough powerfull.

3) The subwoofer speaker is also quite small and of low quality.

4) The subwoofer is just mounted over a simple bracket and not on a sealed or ported box so front and rear waves are not isolated and cancel most of the bass that the woofer is capable to produce. This is a big, big mistake of Toyota engineers on such a expensive vehicle. Even my wife´s older 1994 Nissan Quest came with the optional premium sound equipment with a sealed subwoofer and a powerfull Harman Kardon subwoofer amp and sounded way better than the Land Cruiser own !!!!!

In 1993 I fabricated a ported bass reflex enclosed case which take all the space inside the rear quarter, a 8" JBL subwoofer and a 120 W RMS mono amplifier to drive it. Bass is great, everything is inside so it looks like stock. The pocket and the rear ashtray door are just for the look but useless and I don´t care.

 

[slinger5150]

There's a tool to keep from tearing the cardboard door panels when removing the panel pops. It looks like a screwdriver with a big 'V' on the end of it. Like a weed puller. You slide it under the edge of the panel and run it along until you come in contact with a panel pop. Then take the tool and insert it with the panel pop inbetween the 'V' and pry up. Repeat for the rest of the panel pops. It will alow you to remove the door panel without damaging the backing. You can buy them from Snap-on or @NAPA for about $12. Its called a door panel remover tool.

 

[Sackman]

This was a great write up. I followed it exactly about a month ago with great results.

I know, I sent a few of you messages wondering about the performance of these speakers, since I thought they were lacking in base...turns out it was b/c radio has no base to begin with, as soon as I put in a CD they threw out some kick.

 

[jeffro]

Just like "Skillet" did it....

Hey Skillet,

Thanks for the pics and write up of your 4" speaker install in the rear doors. I installed the same Pioneer speakers exactly as you did. It was easy to modify the black plastic "cup" that the old speakers fit into.

Thank you!

 

[Skillet]

I am very glad this writeup has helped a few folks out there.
There have been a couple of PM's that asked about the part #'s on the front 6.25" speakers.
I am looking for the number and was stupid for not posting it to begin with (I thought I had), however, they are not made anymore and you probably cannot find them anyway. I got them on clearance over a year ago.
If I can locate the box, I will post the number for you.

Thanks again for the positive feedback!