An FJ40 Owners view on the FJ Cruiser

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Recently my roommate picked up a loaded FJ Cruiser. Since then I have had some time to compare and contrast the 2. I can't compare it to my current configuration on the Fj40, but I do remember what mine was like stock.

First the dislikes about the FJCruiser: The blind spots, can't be ignored, and have been beaten to death here, so I won't elaborate on that. What I didn't expect is the incredibly long reach to flip down the sun visors. I almost had to relaese the seatbelt to do this simple task. Riding in the backseat is like riding in a cave. The windows seem like decorations. I'll compare it to sitting in that goofy "window" seat in an airplane that is between two windows. From the driver seat the passenger side "A" pillar is a little distracting at first, but is quick to get used to. The front bumper is a joke at best, the end caps are loose and look like an afterthought, completely useless, unless you like a decreased approach angle. The oil pan, and fuel tank "skid plates" are plastic too WTF! The Factory supplied tires are a joke too.

What is there to like? How about the fully boxed frame! It extends all the way back past the body (this will make an aftermarket rear bumper difficult to make look right IMO), Still I hadn't read about this, and was very surprised while crawling under it. The "sliders" are an excellent touch, and should stand up to mild punishment, the coating on them is thin though (yup! already scared them). The A-TRAC seems to work just as advertised. from a spotting point of view more usefull than the electric locker. It hasn't been in a position yet to really need the locker though. I do like the suicide doors. It is much easier to get in the rear seats than a hard top FJ40. To add to that, you are facing normally in th erear seat. This Ugly Duckling gets alot of attention in traffic (for now anyway) Had a H**p Rubicon driver nearly break his neck and wreck his P.O.S. oogling it. Chicks seem to dig it too.

There are a few other minor likes and dislikes, but nothing serious. As mentioned by many this thing is very compliant on the highway, and surprisingly capable off highway as well. Is it a "Real" Land Cruiser? By designation NO, but I wish when my FJ40 was stock it was this capable, and comfortable.

For as much as my opinion means I give it a thumbs up!
 
I'll add to that

I still have a stock 40. In fact I have a stock 1973 FJ-40, 3 speed and all, and a bone stock 1984 FJ-60. I restored the 40 in highschool, so I know it well and I have been driving it daily for nearly 10 years now. With that said, I wasn't overly impressed with the new FJ. I've mentioned it in other posts, and it alot was said above about visibility and so forth. Visibilty is poor. Although, I was very surprised when I got to drive one. I was in Salt Lake last week, and checked one out. What I hadn't noticed sitting in one, is that forward visibilty is pretty good. They angled the A pillars such that they present a smaller target to you. Also the mirrors help alot. But again, C pillar sucks, I sit high, I'm 6'1", so seeing over the hood and dash and out the back was okay, but backing up with obstacles behind you is tough. I drove in downtown salt lake, in heavy traffic, seemed okay for this country hick to get around, I hate city driving.

But overall, it felt very comfortable, and after getting home and sitting in my 40, the seating and so forth, distance from windshield and stuff is actually pretty similar, I was surprised. But as said above, it beats a stock 40 to peices. I have gone alot of places, I have tried alot of things within reason. I've pulled big trailers, commuted, travelled, and all of that. I use my 40, and it is what it is. An old Cruiser, that is loud and slow. Not to mention, old open diffs, okay ground clearance, narrow and short, and I have laid it over once. With that said, I got to see an FJ wheel in February in deep snow. Awesome rig, it did stuff my stock cruisers will never be able to do. I would still be digging out of the snow. For one it has okay clearance, although, alot of stuff hangs down, and the skid plates could be better. Body is so so, but the thing has power, and a solid drive trian, and the A-trac is awesome. I stall out in my old 40 all the time, it is gutless in high range with the 3 speed, it is slow, and noisy. The Fj of course is modern and performs like a modern vehicle. Will it last, do IFS Toyota pickups last, yes, for 100's of thousands of miles, it is a Toyota, under hard brutal use, maybe not, how many of your 40's are still stock and wheeled hard, not a great deal, they broke and we improved on them. This thing is a good start, and a great try at bringing in a good small wheelable vehicle. Hopefully Toyota will address some issues on it, however Toyota isn't excatly known for making quick changes to a line. So don't hold your breath.

Personally, I wish Toyota had brought over the 70 series line, or went ahead and built the TLC prottypes or the PX10 that ARACO put out several years ago. Those were proven prototypes and much more utilitarian vehicles. I know safety and all, but how does a Jeep keep passing safety standards? Go figure, FJ's are here, lets see what they can do.
 
got to test drive one yesterday.I was the first person to drive it. Still had plastic on the seats. My girlfriend was thinking about buying one.
The one thing that impressed me is that it was road worthy. It was one of the best riding vehicles i have ever drove. But you definitely have to rely on the mirrors because there's not much window room to look through in the back when you're changing lanes or reversing. Something that i dont like is that the top dont come off and there isn't a sun roof option. but over all i would say its ok. i would buy one if i had a little extra money. My girlfriend didn't really like it. The only reason its being considered is because it is a cruiser. I think we are going to look for something that is a little more easier for her to drive.
 
I expect that the first tree you would encounter would rip one of those big-assed mirrors right off the side of it.
 
Colorado Boy-74-FJ40 said:
I expect that the first tree you would encounter would rip one of those big-assed mirrors right off the side of it.

I expect the first tree encountered will fold the mirror neatly against the window as designed. Probably won't even scratch the backside of the mirror if the driver is going slow enough.

-B-
 
I test drove one today. Meh. I like my 72 a lot better. The back is like a cave. It needs that C pillar window to be a lot bigger. Maybe a pair of sunroofs to cast some light in there wouldnt hurt either.
 
Why not part time 4WD with a six speed.

I think the FJC is a unique rig but why can't they make a part time standard tranny?
I am trying save on gas and emissions but I still want to shift. A local lady bought the first one to arrive in town full load six speed and she raves it will do 150 km/h (93mph) in fourth gear. What kind of people are buying these??????
 
Beowulf said:
I expect the first tree encountered will fold the mirror neatly against the window as designed. Probably won't even scratch the backside of the mirror if the driver is going slow enough.

-B-

Well, the answer is they don't. My wife and I wheeled a new FJ with the Toyota trail team yesterday (Upstate Cruisers, Caesar Head). My wife promptly hit a sawed tree end while negotiating the stump. (Hey, she's a pro). We heard the crunch three rigs back.

I have been to three FJ events so far and I am impressed. It is like driving my '82 40, except with power and comfort. Off road, it is very impressive, and at least one of the three factory FJs with us yesterday was equiped with a front ARB and winch, which came in very handy when we needed to return a 40 to all fours. My wife's opinion was it handled the trail much better than our '98 100, which she said felt like a truck in comparison.

I agree on the blind spot - - the mother of all blind spots - - and if I get one I will put one of those very large blind spot mirrors on it, or take it directly to a mirror shop and have them cut and apply a split mirror.

Perfect? no.

Nice to have the opportunity to purchase something sort of, kinda like a 40 again? yes.
 
Turkeypen said:
Well, the answer is they don't.

They don't fold at all or it didn't fold that time? I haven't seen non-folding mirrors in a very long time. I didn't check the FJC that I saw up close but stationary mirrors would be a problem.
-B-
 
Beowulf said:
They don't fold at all or it didn't fold that time?
-B-

Beowulf,

Dont know if they are fold backs or not, but they didn't fold that time. Boy, they didn't fold that time. But then again, this was a good size tree (photos available on Upstate Cruiser site in clubhouse).

Good question though, another thing to wander down to check on at the dealership
 
Beowulf said:
They don't fold at all or it didn't fold that time? I haven't seen non-folding mirrors in a very long time. I didn't check the FJC that I saw up close but stationary mirrors would be a problem.
-B-



They do fold, both directions.
 
Turkeypen said:
Dont know if they are fold backs or not, but they didn't fold that time. Boy, they didn't fold that time. But then again, this was a good size tree (photos available on Upstate Cruiser site in clubhouse).

I was expecting something more than a little scratch. The mirror probably didn't fold because it was hit on the inside of the pivot.

Scratched_FJC_mirror.JPG


-B-
 
Beowulf,

Thanks for grabbibg the picture. (I am still learning how to navigate the site.)

The 2D picture doesn't do the damage justice, there is definitely cracked and crunched plastic (as we heard it crunch) and it actually moved the upper part of the 8" (dia.) tree. ClemsonCruiser was right behind it and let out a big, yell of joy in my wife doing body damage. In my book, it was a total loss on that mirror, and I woulld bet it has already been replaced since it belongs to toyota. Glad it didn't come out of my pocket.

Those mirrors really do stick out like ears on an old man. Why the trail team hadn't already folded them back when we started the trail I don't know. See the other pictures from that day for other cruiser fun.
 

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