Rake can change the rear kick up and keep weight on three front end by reducing squat on acceleration... In a race car I play with rear kick up all the time and take specifically based on the track for on and off throttle steering feel...
Alignment shop cranked my TB's down
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Yes, but rear squat would be more a factor of the spring rate in the rear than the actual rake.
AFAIK they are the same but I would have to double check.
Never heard that term, so not sure what that is.
Sorry, I just do see it. If you define driveability you have to show the numbers. We do a ton of alignments and I can assure you the rake does not affect it, only the alignment numbers when done.
Slee is just comparing his SAS to our IFS =)
Or he's trolling. Or he's right and I'm just one of the silly ones who believed my truck pulled to the right under heavy acceleration when level. Even after my second alignment from a second shop.
My truck today with stock suspension is sitting pretty at 5/8" rake with pleasant road manners.
...via IH8MUD app
Or he's trolling. Or he's right and I'm just one of the silly ones who believed my truck pulled to the right under heavy acceleration when level. Even after my second alignment from a second shop.
My truck today with stock suspension is sitting pretty at 5/8" rake with pleasant road manners.
...via IH8MUD app
Highly doubt he's trolling. They know these trucks better than arguably anyone in North America.
That's what would make it an epic troll job =)
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Lol. I might not be clear on what the word means. I thought trolling was messing with people for fun. And nobody NEEDS to do that. I take it back if I offended you, Christo. I've just experienced a truck with zero rake pull to the right under heavy load like (I thought) many others. Happy new year all!
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I would be interested to hear from anyone that had a level truck with handling issues, that raised the back to introduce a 1" rake and then reports that it drove better.
In most cases that I see here and speak to people on the phone, they normally lower the front and then get better handling. They then attribute it to the rake.
At stock height the front A-arms are relatively flat, so when you unload the front end when accelerating the change in wheel geometry is very little since the A arms are at the point of the arc where vertical movement at the tire does not change the in out movement a lot when the suspension cycles. When the truck is lifted, the movement is at a different point of the arc and then in-out movement is a lot more. Imagine a circle and at the 3 and 9 o-clock positions the arc is about vertical. However if you look at 4:30 and 7:30 positions, the arc starts to flatten out and traveling along the arc has a pretty good movement in the horizontal direction.
Very much the same with a lifted truck where the panhard rods end up at a greater angle than stock and any up down cycling of the axle changes the location of the axle a lot under the truck.
That is when you accelerate the change in front end geometry is a lot more so any anomalies in alignment is going to show up a lot more.
Happy New Year.
In most cases that I see here and speak to people on the phone, they normally lower the front and then get better handling. They then attribute it to the rake.
At stock height the front A-arms are relatively flat, so when you unload the front end when accelerating the change in wheel geometry is very little since the A arms are at the point of the arc where vertical movement at the tire does not change the in out movement a lot when the suspension cycles. When the truck is lifted, the movement is at a different point of the arc and then in-out movement is a lot more. Imagine a circle and at the 3 and 9 o-clock positions the arc is about vertical. However if you look at 4:30 and 7:30 positions, the arc starts to flatten out and traveling along the arc has a pretty good movement in the horizontal direction.
Very much the same with a lifted truck where the panhard rods end up at a greater angle than stock and any up down cycling of the axle changes the location of the axle a lot under the truck.
That is when you accelerate the change in front end geometry is a lot more so any anomalies in alignment is going to show up a lot more.
Happy New Year.