Ajax to Martinez Cabins 1/2/06

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John and I decided to try this run yesterday. There were brief talks in the wheeling after Xmas thread of wheter or not it was possible.

Here is the airial photo of the route we took:
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?...e ridge_~aN.33.206700_-111.149712_Ajax Trail_

We took the trail south from the switchback at point 7 and followed it south of point five to where the trail began to head away from the was designated by point 4 (33° 11.18'N, 111° 8.88'W). THERE IS NO CROSSOVER FROM THE TRAIL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WASH and therefore the potential connection of Martinez Canyon trail to Ajax Mine trail is, as of yet, impossible. We did however hike down to the washbed from the trail and found a potential "future" route to connect the two. This would however require the removal of native cacti and other plant life, unacceptable practice in my book. The bed of the wash did however look to offer up some substantial challenges in the form of rock gardens and waterfalls. Our next excursion into this area will be from the Martinez side at which point we will attempt to get at it from the other side. We went no further than the point mentioned above and are unaware as to whether or not one of the other washesreaches the trail at another point.

The trail between the Ajax turnoff and the point that we decided to turn around is a well defined yet seldom traveled trail. There is a schute about 30 feet long that is VERY narrow and requires some carefull driving so as not to contact the walls on either side, not sure that the sides of an 80 series would make it through unscathed. The schute is followed directly by a nice, medium speed required yet not quite unnerving, hill climb which takes you straight up a ridge about 400 feet vertically in few hundred yards. Once at the top of the assent you reach the saddle between two bluffs and cross into "Martinez Canyon" and follow an off camber decent allong a hillside until you reach a point very close to the wash. This is where we did a little exploring by foot looking for a route into the wash. When we couldn't find a way into the wash we decided that a late lunch in Superior might be nice and head back to the Ajax Mine road and out towards Superior. After a long haul out to Pearlite mines for some rockhounding we decided to head directly home from there. Airing up at the JR/SR Highschool at around 3PM and jumping onto the 60 westbound about 3:15 and finally reaching the home destination at 4pm. Alll in all this was a great scenic run with no real challenges for us other than the couple of hillclimbs and steep decents. In the next few weeks, I will be planning another rockhounding trip out to the pearlite mines for my daughter and I with some additional exploring in the area.

John should hopefully have some pics up in the next couple of days.




EDIT: TO LESSEN ANY CONFUSION, WE DID NOT OPEN A NEW TRAIL! THIS EXCURSION WAS INTENDED TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ALREADY A PATH OPENED. THERE WAS NOT. NO PLANTS OR ANIMALS WERE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS POST.
 
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So if I have ya right, you did create some type of a new run in this area? It's a little hard for me to be sure because I'm not an expert on the area. Very curious.

Also curious...Orville's Loop...I hear that's a challenging trail in the area though I can't find a map of it. Do you know about this trip?
 
I don't know the "Orvilles Loop" loop per say, but it tracks along trails of other names in the Florence Jct. area and goes by a couple old buildings, wells, and such. Don't really know much about all the trails it follows, but I'm sure a google search would turn up something.

I'll post up the pics tonight.
 
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offroader5 said:
I don't know the "Orvilles Loop" loop per say, but it tracks along trails of other names in the Florence Jct. area and goes by a couple old buildings, wells, and such. Don't really know much about all the trails it follows, but I'm sure a google search would turn up something.

I've tried. I know a Rover buddie with a D90 runs it with 2 friends in H1's. They say it's challenging. I'll link up with them some day.

Meanwhile, BMAN's trail linking seems really interesting. I'll try to link topos later to better see where he went.
 
doooood we missed each other by a matter of less than an hour im sure of it, after running martinez (actually kinda tame now) i took off to explore a trail from the coke ovens rd that headed the way you were.
 
No John, the trail was already there. We just followed it thinking that there might be a way into the back side of Martinez. Unfortunately there was not. The invite didn't go out because we were unaware of the trail conditions we might encounter. You know that there's no way I'm putting anyone's rigs in danger of body damge or worse. If we had made it into the wash it's hard to say what the trail looked like much further ahead. What I do know is that it was pretty intense from the point that we parked for at least the next 1/4 mile down the wash.
 
My original thought on the subject was that it would be nice to have an alternate route out of Martinez Canyon that didn't involve the climb up to the top of the mountain and back down the Luge Bypass, subsequently taking the LOOP out of the Martinez equation. It may still be possible and we could potentially attempt it again at a later date. Next time I'll post up before we go.
 
RHINO said:
doooood we missed each other by a matter of less than an hour im sure of it, after running martinez (actually kinda tame now) i took off to explore a trail from the coke ovens rd that headed the way you were.


You wouldn't happen to have a GPS fix on "yellow belly ledge" would ya?
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
I've tried. I know a Rover buddie with a D90 runs it with 2 friends in H1's. They say it's challenging. I'll link up with them some day.

Meanwhile, BMAN's trail linking seems really interesting. I'll try to link topos later to better see where he went.

Well, if they run it with H1's then it must be paved.:)
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
Meanwhile, BMAN's trail linking seems really interesting. I'll try to link topos later to better see where he went.

Mineral mtn and Picket post mtn quads are the topo's you need for sure. There's also one more that runs into Superior. Can't remember the name right now though.
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
Also curious...Orville's Loop...I hear that's a challenging trail in the area though I can't find a map of it. Do you know about this trip?

Orville's Loop is challenging due to one particular obstacle. A rock ledge with some side hill or boudler straddling action depending on your line. It has a go around which was pretty exciting in it's self last time I did it (many years ago, probably has changed a lot since then). I can't really remember how to run it cause there are several intersecting trails and mine holes. It's basically between the north end of Box canyon and the road toward Martinez (I think). Another fun short run in that vivinity is Jack Handle.
 
So Bman, do you think you guys made it as far south as your #5 mark on the map? I'm still thinking the next wash east of your #6 mark is worth looking into.

I'd still like to try and find a way to hook up Flat Tire Canyon to 177 from the trails off of your Weeping Cliffs Trail
 
Cdaniel said:
So Bman, do you think you guys made it as far south as your #5 mark on the map? I'm still thinking the next wash east of your #6 mark is worth looking into.

I'd still like to try and find a way to hook up Flat Tire Canyon to 177 from the trails off of your Weeping Cliffs Trail

Waypoint #5 is really as far as we went. We were maybe a small bit past it, but not far.

There is actually a trail over there east of #6. We could see it at one point from the trail we were on.
 

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