AC problem

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So i finally got my LX back, and all i can say is damn, i missed it. But i went to recharge my AC because it was blowing hot inside the cab and i have run into some problems. Upon filling up to the green area on the gauge of the can, i removed the fitting from the low side port. Once i did that, the low side port drained out all of the freon that i just put in. No it was not already full to start with because i checked the gauge prior to filling. Now when i try to put more in, the same thing happens. Any suggestion?
 
I have searched all through the forums and i cannot find any information on this problem, This Ga heat is no joke.
 
You said that it's leaking from the low side port (i.e. where you put the quick disconnect)? If so, it might be a leaking schrader valve. Lots of youtube videos on how to replace those.
 
Sounds like you're describing a leaking service port shrader valve. I guess these are DIY replaceable, but it's probably worth finding where the leak is, fixing it, evacuating the system (new desicant pack) and recharging with the correct weight of freon/oil. It's hard to get the charge right just using the gauged cans.
 
It was a very high pressure like a blow off almost that came from the valve.
 
There should be some ac shops that do a free diagnosis... see if you can find one close by. I took mine to one and the guy got pissed i just wanted it checked. lol
 
Lol, ya i plan on fixing whatever needs to be fixed myself. Id much rather learn and save money, while doing it on my own time and not a mechanics. I think i have a wheel bearing job coming in the near future too, starting to hear some noise from my front left. Hopefully the forums can guide me as well as they have the many others here.
 
just curious... did you disengage the line while the truck was running ac on? always attach and detach with the ac off and engine off..... The shrader valves will stick... this is about the exact same thing as the valve stem valve in your tire... same tool removes it... they can cock kinda sideways and leak... this is absolutely something you should be able to fix yourself... I think these with rear ac only hold a little less than 2lb...
 
How do i disengage the valve? Ive always just turned the car on, put the ac on full blast then hooked up the recharge.
 
Also since you don't really know how much or how little refrigerant was/is in the system in addition to replacing the low pressure valve core (assuming it is replaceable...dunno on that one) you might want to start from zero. AutoZone will provide free rental for a vacuum pump and gauge set with deposit. Then you can add back the proper amount of refrigerant (1,050 grams +/- 50g for the rear A/C equipped 100-Series; 1-small can of C134r refrigerant = 340g IIRC).

Overcharging is actually worse than undercharging...but you ideally, for best reliability and cooling performance, want to be spot on.
 
Alright, last night i was board and tinkering with my AC, i had the car on and also te AC again, but tested the schrader valve to see if there was any pressure to be released from it, I took a small skinny piece of plastic and depressed the valve and nothing came out. Does that mean my system is at zero?
 
Yes it sounds like the system is de-pressurized. You could, for grins, also depress the high side valve to be certain. If you have refrigerant you should probably have it recovered so not to allow it to go to atmosphere. Also anytime you are working on a pressurized/potentially pressurized system wearing gloves and safety glasses are a must!

Let's go back to why you thought you needed to add refrigerant. Assuming it went from blowing cold air to blowing hot air you should think about doing a little more diagnosing to get to the root of the problem. It would be, and to disclose I'm far far from being an A/C tech, relatively rare for a valve to fail apart of day-to-day use of the A/C. Without a leak source of some kind A/C systems are completely closed systems and do not need to be topped off with refrigerant.

I would suspect you have a leak elsewhere in the system. At the very least you might want to assume you have a leak/failure in the system. You can start by checking the simple things: A/C fuse and also look for any tell-tale line/hose punctures/failure points where easily visible. The A/C clutch should be on your initial list of items to check too (outlined how to in the FSM...can post if you need it).

Regarding my recent foray into all things A/C work on my '99 I started with a $45 inspection investment at the local A/C specialty shop. They quickly ID'd the problem and then I took over doing all the work, vacuuming and charging the system.

If you know there was UV leak detection dye added to your A/C system you can use a UV light and yellow colored glasses (~$20 from most auto parts stores) to try to find the source of the leak (assuming its not a bad compressor).

I'm not sure if the high or low side valves perform as a safety release or not. If so then it sounds like maybe, just maybe, when you added more refrigerant you might have exceeded the capacity of the system...dunno, just a guess. Then assuming you don't have a leak/line/hose failure then maybe this would point to a A/C compressor/clutch failure.
 
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I originally wanted to recharge my AC because it does have a small leak, sometimes coming from under my passenger side glove box. But the LX has sat in a shop yard for 6 months while i waited to have funds to fix the front differential. When i got it back saturday night, the AC was blowing hot and I figured it just needed recharge as it has before after sitting for a long time. I went to recharge and that is when my problem started.
 
Im going to fully depressurize the system today and ill report back with results.
 
Update: After fully depressurizing the system, I recharged with some leak stop R 134 and now Im getting cold air again. Thanks for the help guys.
 
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