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Formulaonehd

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Hi all

I have a RHD lx470 2000 model and toyota have advised I need to replace the abs $4k ex Japan

Question is, is the ABS assembly 4705060041 , is it compatible between LHD and RHD as I can get one elsewhere (same part number) overseas for a heck of a lot less $$$

Thanks
 
Ok so have got a snippet of the partsouq screen, and i can see a note about "RHD and type A" for the whole assembly

Can someone assist, does this mean only the oil pressure sensor is different to a LHD (i assume type B) ?

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Email Dave Stedman at Japan4x4 with your part number. He'll give you the best price you can get.
 
Ok so have got a snippet of the partsouq screen, and i can see a note about "RHD and type A" for the whole assembly

Can someone assist, does this mean only the oil pressure sensor is different to a LHD (i assume type B) ?

View attachment 3757448
Toyota used two oil pressure sensor (OP). The first (IIRC: type A) has a flat wire housing block. It was only used from Aug 1999 January 2000 in the 2000 model LC/LX470 USA 100 series. Which was first year to get independent (two) rear brake lines. In January 2000 the wire housing block has changed to a triangular shape (IIRC: Type B).

As a general rule, all P/N are the same world wide. A different P/N is a different part.

The sensors "may be" interchangeable, IDK. But the housing block from vehicle wire harness, will only fit on the correct OP sensor. It may even be possible to replace vehicle wire harness OP sensor female block, with the one that fits, again IDK. Mixing and matching either, would be a experimental.


If you look at yours OP sensor wire house. You'll know.
Aug 1999-January 2000 flat (inline)
Brake master Pswitch OO donor (1).JPG

4 Barke master pswitch 00LC donor.JPG


Seals purchased separately
early 2000.jpg


January 2000 -2007 (Triangular)
Type B PS sensor.jpg
mid 2000 - 2007.jpg


If you study the FSM. You'll see Toyota manual calls one replaceable, the other not. Why I can't say. But both can be purchased from Toyota.
 
It's absolutely possible to replace connector housings to suit the sensor. The details are in the repair manual. The number you need to find is embossed on the wire harness side of the connector housing.


There is a wire harness repair manual, through 2007, in the 100 series Resources section.
 
Ok so have got a snippet of the partsouq screen, and i can see a note about "RHD and type A" for the whole assembly

Can someone assist, does this mean only the oil pressure sensor is different to a LHD (i assume type B) ?
From your VIN, you have the Type A, connector housing fitting.

The part listed for your VIN, 89637-30030 is also listed for these models, from 09-1997 to 01.2005:
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This appears to be the rectangular format connector housing. And, with the exception of the 100 series and prius, these are all non-US models.

The one listed for my 2000 LX470 is 89637-30050 and is listed for the trucks and the Crown, from 08.2000 to 08.2002 only:
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This is the triangular format connector housing. We didn't get the Crown, Prado or 90 series here, which means the -30030 probably won't be available from the US dealer stock. Dave can get anything, though.

It's odd that from the lists above, the Crown and Land Cruiser are the only ones on both lists, and have virtually nothing in common, from the point of view of vehicle function. I'd venture to guess that either would fit, but Toyota decided not to supply any information on the ABS system in the EWD. Maybe it's because they bought it from Bosch and Bosch didn't want to share, or they just didn't want to take any responsibility for the thing.

Another annoyance is that Toyota decided not to include connector data in the EWD for the 100 series, like they did for the 80 series. This means you can't match forms, you have to use the part numbers to find compatible connector housings. Not a problem if you already have a connector housing, but a PITA if you don't and need one.

LMK if you need to know the part number for the triangular harness side connector housing.
 
Ok so have got a snippet of the partsouq screen, and i can see a note about "RHD and type A" for the whole assembly

Can someone assist, does this mean only the oil pressure sensor is different to a LHD (i assume type B) ?

View attachment 3757448
I've used partsouq to correctly source P/N,s for almost 10 years. I've found them to be incredibly accurate. It's why I use them in the first place and linked ih8mud to it. Only once, did it have and incorrect P/N (AC O-ring), which all USA Toyota and Lexus Dealerships also had wrong.

The screen shot you show, has 47050-60041 (the Booster w/master). I have ordered this same one, in the USA for a 2000 LC w/VSC type A OP sensor. If you buy from USA Toyota/Lexus, they'll ask for your VIN #, in the order/check out process. They'll ship correct part for your VIN#. They'll guarantee it is.
 
Toyota used two oil pressure sensor (OP). The first (IIRC: type A) has a flat wire housing block. It was only used from Aug 1999 January 2000 in the 2000 model LC/LX470 USA 100 series. Which was first year to get independent (two) rear brake lines. In January 2000 the wire housing block has changed to a triangular shape (IIRC: Type B).

As a general rule, all P/N are the same world wide. A different P/N is a different part.

The sensors "may be" interchangeable, IDK. But the housing block from vehicle wire harness, will only fit on the correct OP sensor. It may even be possible to replace vehicle wire harness OP sensor female block, with the one that fits, again IDK. Mixing and matching either, would be a experimental.


If you look at yours OP sensor wire house. You'll know.
Aug 1999-January 2000 flat (inline)
View attachment 3757698
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Seals purchased separately
View attachment 3757689

January 2000 -2007 (Triangular)
View attachment 3757696View attachment 3757690

If you study the FSM. You'll see Toyota manual calls one replaceable, the other not. Why I can't say. But both can be purchased from Toyota.
Thanks mate this is extremely helpful. It appears only those OP sensors differ in the model for my vehicle. According to my VIN i have Type A sensor. If they can be switched over as you show above, then that appears to be worst case scenario plus wire harness. Ill try to avoid this.
 

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