9006 lighting question (1 Viewer)

[LX_TREME]

Just get the True HID system you'll be satisfy also Xenon HID light is a micro-discharge bulb filled with a mixture of noble gases including xenon. The bulb has no filament, as is the case with a halogen bulb, but the light arc is created between two electrodes. In addition, it is a revolutionary lighting concept that gives 100X more light at with less energy than halogen bulbs to improve road safety and allow for comfortable driving at night time.

 

[sjcruiser]

LX_TREME,

Imagine a very bright, something like million candle power flash light that CAN'T be focus - maybe you'd understand what others are concerning about. Till then, you could still be proud of your HID system.

 

[mot]

... In addition, it is a revolutionary lighting concept that gives 100X more light at with less energy than halogen bulbs to improve road safety and allow for comfortable driving at night time.

I'd hate to tell you this, LX_TREME, but the light cut-off in your pic does not look that good to me. Bright, certainly! And I'm no expert, but it makes me think that with the output/cut-off like that you would be causing too much glare to the oncoming traffic not to mention making it not too easy for you to see in a foul weather (fog, snow, heavy rain,　etc...)

I've read on HELLA's site that their Luminator (Rally 4000 in HID, I "think") is x3 brighter at the same distance, not x100. Granted it takes a lot less wattage to drive them (35w).

And regarding "road safety", it might make it safer for you and others to drive with them IF you use a system that was designed that way from the factory, installed properly, and not putting them in as a halogen replacement. I believe it is "illegal" now to perform such a mod (or even to sell such retrofit kits) in the US.

Anyway... just my $0.02.

Mot

 

[neowulf]

I think Hella has got the Xenon (is ths caled HID in the US?) replacement lamp for you’re car , if you switch to the dual quadratic type of lights, I considered this in till I decided to mount two H4 lamps instead, they are enough for me. You should be ok with dual H4 lamps and a new harness. (Or maybe just the harness if you have a drop bigger than 0,4V)

LX_TREME that better be the hi-beam or you're blinding people.

 

[lovetoski]

Neowolf,

Which Hella H4's did you install? What wattage bulbs are you using?

Thanks!

 

[mot]

Neowolf,

Which Hella H4's did you install? What wattage bulbs are you using?

Thanks!

You might have known this but you can't just drop in the H4's in the 80, unless you have (or purchase) the quad, rectangular headlights as neowulf does. If you want to purchase that set-up we are talking $$$. Also the Euro-spec headlights that look similar to the N. American spec's will take H4 for low/high and H1 (I believe) for dedicated high.

The JDM spec 80 has the H4 and H3(of some variation) for fogs(with yellow cover).

As Cary suggested, the easiest and the best bang for the buck would be to upgrade to HIR and don't mess around with HID(real or not) or Xenon gas injected (supposedly) halogens too much.

Mot

 

[neowulf]

I'm using 55/60w H4 +50% bulbs and i have droped the H1 lights and replased them with H4 innserts(quad H4)
Connected to a relay and a switch this means that i can use all 4 frontlights ass lo-beam if i want to

and yes they are corectly adjusted.

BTW. I always rip out the original conectors from the lights and use them as signalpower to my frontligt relays (that i istall as close as posible to the battery, geting the shortest posible way for the current between the battery and lighs). this is a easy and sheap way to get better lights

 

[ryanjl]

I've the H4 + 50%'s in the LX470, but I don't think they provide as much light as the HIR's in my 80.

To me, the best, dollar for dollar, LEGAL lighting upgrade you can do is these two things, listed in order of priority.

1. HIR1 and HIR2 bulbs from Daniel Stern or other outlet

2. Slee wiring harness

For a little over $100, you've got a night and day difference in your night vision. As others have said, all this info is in the lighting FAQ thread.

 

[cary]

Just to note that the HIR upgrade is technically not legal. People think that the use of a DOT approved bulb in a DOT approved housing makes it legal, but swapping in a DOT bulb (like the HIR) into a housing that wasn't designated to use it, doesn't qualify. This is the reason that all HID retrofit kits are not legal, even though they may use DOT certified compoentns.

 

[ryanjl]

Whoops, I stand corrected!

Breakin the law, breakin the law....

 

[barrypt5]

IdahoDoug

With the HIR bulbs that you are now using first did you get them on Ebay? Or somewhere else. Second, do you have the HIR bulbs in both the low beam and hi beam? thanks

 

[ryanjl]

I got my low beams through my local John Deere, when they were still available there.

Your best bet is to call Daniel Stern (you can look in the FAQ for contact info), or the hirheadlights.com link that cary provided.

I have them in both the high and low beams, and they make one hell of a difference.

They are two different bulbs for high and low, btw. Read the FAQ for more info.

 

[mot]

I've the H4 + 50%'s in the LX470, but I don't think they provide as much light as the HIR's in my 80.

Shocker,

Your LX has projector low (didn't think it took H4) and 9005 or 9006 high beams, doesn't it? (Correct me if I'm wrong, please!).

Projectors tend to be dimmer than regular/multi-reflector based lights and that might be the reason for it not being/appearing as bright as your 80 with HIR.

Just wanted some clarification, I guess.

Mot

 

[ryanjl]

Whoops, I meant to say H1's + 50%. The LX470 (100 series) in the US uses H1's for the low beams, and 9005's for the high beams. Where as the regular 100 series uses the 9006's for the low beams, the same as the 80 series.

But yes, they are projector style beams.

 

[IdahoDoug]

Barry,

One 80 has just low beam HIRs/100w highs and the other has hi/low HIRs. I got mine from Daniel Stern Lighting (do a google search and then call him).

DougM

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I'm coming into this thread way late, but have a note. I've got the Slee harness and was running 85w lows and 110w highs. Well, the bulbs cooked part of the harness, completely melted the bulb plugs on two lights. They were cheap lights, I imagine that had a lot to do with it.

I'll be back to the stock wattage, and just enjoying the gain from the harness.

 

[mot]

Cory,

Was the harness salvageable(sp) or did you have to buy another from Christo?

Did those bulbs make big/any difference? How about compared to HIR's(if you've got a first-hand experience, that is)?

Mot

P.S. Thanks for the stickers! I've been meaning to get in touch with you, they got here with Christmas presents from my in-laws. Cheers!

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I had to cut about a foot out of each low beam clip and wire in new clips. I'm glad the bulbs burned out rather than catch something further up the harness on fire.

The bulbs were nice, they were definitely MUCH brighter over stock. Hard to compare to HIRs, the light HIR's put out seems really white. The light the 85w's I had made it seem like you had your highbeams on all the time, kinda yellowish light too.

I might try some of the new Sylvania bulbs, I think they're called Northstars or Silverstars.

 

[cary]

I might try some of the new Sylvania bulbs, I think they're called Northstars or Silverstars.

I sure am glad I spent all the time writing the faq. Silverstars are nothing more than a tinted bulb with a short life. They put out 1000 lumens like all standard 9006 bulbs. 9012 HIR bulbs put out 1875 lumens and 9006 80watt bulbs put out 1700 lumens.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Nice, just looked through it. I'll try and find the HIR bulbs.